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[BACKGROUND]

[1. Call to Order and Announce a Quorum is Present.]

[00:00:23]

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS TO RECEIVE CITIZENS COMMENTS.

IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT POSTED ON OUR AGENDA OR IS NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING YOU CAN PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

WHEN YOU DO COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I SEE NOBODY COMING FORWARD,

[3.2 Presentation of Proclamations by the Office of the Mayor.]

SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS TO ISSUE A PROCLAMATION.

I'M GOING TO COME DOWN THERE FOR A SECOND.

[BACKGROUND] WELL, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION THAT'S NEAR DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH ENGINEERING.

ANY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS OR ANY ENGINEERS IN THE AUDIENCE ARE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME [NOISE].

I'M ALSO AN ENGINEER AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS SOCIETY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WHICH IS WHO WE'RE MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION OUT TO.

WITH THIS I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR.

PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS PROVIDE THE TALENTS AND SKILLS NECESSARY TO ANALYZE AND SOLVE COMPLEX PROBLEMS AND CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ESSENTIAL FOR THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE WHICH OUR CITIZENS ENJOY, AND WHEREAS THE TEXAS ECONOMY HAS GROWN IN PART BECAUSE IT'S LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS PROVING VITAL TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH EFFICIENT PLANNING, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND OPERATION OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDES WATER, SANITARY, AND STORM SEWERS, STREETS, AND HIGHWAYS, BRIDGES, AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS, AND WHEREAS FEBRUARY 20TH TO 26 HAS BEEN DECLARED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER'S WEEK BY THE TEXAS SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE INTEREST OF MORE THAN 31, 000 LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WHO SHOWED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF DEDICATION TO THEIR PROFESSION IN ALL 50 STATES.

NOW THEREFORE, I KEN FULK, MAYOR THE CITY OF ALLEN, TEXAS, COLLIN COUNTY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 20TH TO 26,2022 AS PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER'S WEEK IN ALLEN, TEXAS. CONGRATULATION. [APPLAUSE].

>> GUYS, READY? PERFECT. HEY, COUNT OF THREE, ONE, TWO, THREE. ONE MORE, ONE TWO, THREE. GREAT

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE FOR EACH ONE OF YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES IF YOU COULD.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR THIS RECOGNITION OF OUR SHARED PROFESSION AND LICENSURE.

THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF ALLEN IS ABOUT 21 MEMBERS AND SIX OF THOSE ARE DEGREED ENGINEERS.

MOST OF US ARE LICENSED TO PRACTICE ENGINEERING IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I'M CHRIS FLANIGAN, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

I'LL PASS THE MICROPHONE AND START WITH ASMA TULLY OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER.

>> HI, I'M ASMA TULLY, TRANSPORTATION MANAGER.

I DEAL WITH TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY OF ALLEN.

THANK YOU. I'LL PASS TO JAMIE.

>> HI, I'M JAMIE AKOMER.

I AM A CIP PROJECT MANAGER.

I AM DOING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

>> I'M ACTUALLY MCDANIEL.

I'M THE FACILITIES PROJECT MANAGER.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR A NEW FACILITY CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS MAJOR FACILITY PROJECTS.

>> HELLO, I'M KEVIN BATES.

I AM THE PROGRAM MANAGER HERE AT THE CITY.

I OVERSEE CAPITAL PROJECTS, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M JOSEPH COTTON, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.

I MAINLY WORK WITH PLANNING AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW IS MY FOCUS.

>> MAYOR, IF I MAY, THIS PROCLAMATION ISN'T ABOUT SELF-PROMOTION FOR US, MORE ABOUT PROMOTING THE PROFESSION AT LARGE, WHICH IS A PROFESSION OF INCREASING DEMAND AS TIME GOES BY.

THAT'S WHY THE TEXAS SOCIETY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS IS REALLY CHARGED WITH EDUCATING SOCIETY IN PARTICULAR OUR YOUTH ABOUT ENGINEERING AS A PROFESSION.

[00:05:01]

IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT JUST SIMPLY VISIT THE WEBSITE TSPE.ORG. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] NICE TO MEET YOU.

NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU.

NICE TO MEET YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU ASHLEY. GO AHEAD.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO REVIEW THE CONSENT AGENDA,

[4. Consent Agenda.]

WHICH I WILL HAVE THE ITEMS READ INTO THE RECORD BY OUR CITY SECRETARY SHELLY GEORGE.

>> THE FOLLOWING IS SUMMARY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE REFER TO THE POSTED AGENDA FOR FULL DETAILS.

AGENDA ITEM 4.1, APPROVEMENT INTO THE JANUARY 25TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

AGENDA ITEM 4.2, ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 3888-2-22 ARE ORDERING THE MAY 7TH JOINT GENERAL ELECTION AND AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR OF COLLIN COUNTY.

AGENDA ITEM 4.3, ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 3889-2-22 ARE AUTHORIZING A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO FUND AN ADDITIONAL CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATE POSITION.

AGENDA ITEM 4.4, ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 3890-2-22 ARE AUTHORIZING A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS TO CONTINUE FUNDING A MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR.

AGENDA ITEM 4.5, AWARD BID AND AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH DOWAGER UTILITY CONSTRUCTION FOR THE US 75 AND RIDGEVIEW UTILITY ADJUSTMENT PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT OF $236,035.

AGENDA ITEM 4.6, AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH ARREDONDO, ZEPEDA AND BRUNZ FOR DESIGN OF THE ROWLETT TRAIL EXTENSION-NORTH SECTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $393,075.

AGENDA ITEM 4.7 AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE FOR A SWAT VEHICLE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $257,600.

AGENDA ITEM 4.8, RECEIVE THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT ENDING DECEMBER 31ST AND RECEIVE THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING DECEMBER 31ST.

>> THANK YOU, SHELLY. JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, THESE ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT SOMETIMES COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY WANT TO REMOVE THOSE.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM 4.6, PLEASE.

>> 4.6?

>> YES.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? IF NOT THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EXCEPT FOR ITEM 4.6.

>> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 4.6.

>> SECOND.

>> DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE VOTE AT THIS TIME.

THOSE ITEMS PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM 4.6.

[4.6 Authorize the City Manager to Execute a Contract with Arredondo, Zepeda & Brunz, LLC, for Design of the Rowlett Trail Extension-North Section in the Amount of $393,075.]

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHAFER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I QUESTION THE WISDOM, THIS EXPENDITURE RIGHT NOW.

ONE MORE OR LESS EXTENSION ON THE TRAIL WHEN WE HAVE A BREAK TRAIL SYSTEM AS IS IS NOT GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR CITIZENS.

RIGHT NOW AND THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN IT IS QUICKLY HEADING TOWARDS ANOTHER RECESSION.

I THINK THE MORE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO WOULD BE TO RESERVE ANY UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURES AND SHOW THE CITIZENS OF ALLEN THAT WE'RE WATCHING EVERY PENNY.

>> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS ITEM?

>> OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IF YOU'RE AWARE, WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF WORLD WAR III RIGHT NOW.

BUT THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE CDC.

THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.

WE CAN WRITE GRANTS OR WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS.

WHEN WE DO BUILD THIS NEXT YEAR, MAYBE THE YEAR DOWN THE ROAD OR TWO, MAYBE EVEN THREE, WE CAN GET THE GRANTS IN PLACE.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, IT IS.

ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

BUT THIS DOESN'T COMMIT US TO ANYTHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

[00:10:02]

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> UNTIL THE BID FOR CONSTRUCTION COMES UP, AND WE'RE ALL REMINDED THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED THE DESIGN, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL MOVE FORWARD OR CONSIDER THE EXPENDITURE LAW.

>> VALID POINT, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YOU KNOW IF THAT COMES UP, LET'S SAY NEXT MONTH, THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T PUT IT UP.

IT WON'T COME UP NEXT MONTH, THAT'LL BE SEVERAL MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, OF COURSE.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT OFF IN THE FUTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO IT UNLESS WE'RE IN A MORE COMFORTABLE POSITION FINANCIALLY NATIONWIDE.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH.

>> I SEE TWO HOT MICS DOWN HERE SO CARL YOU'RE NEXT.

>> YEAH, WHAT I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE IS, THIS IS THE DESIGN ELEMENT.

THIS IS A BIG PROJECT ON DONATED LAND FROM MRS. MCDERMOTT AND IT'S A MAJOR TRAILHEAD AND OUR COMMUNITY LOVES THEIR TRAIL SYSTEMS. THE WHOLE REASON WE WANT TO GET AHEAD AND DO THE DESIGN NOW IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF BRIDGES, WHICH TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LEAD TIME.

AND AS WAS MENTIONED, THESE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM CDC FUNDS WHICH ARE SALES TAX REVENUE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF SALES TAX DOLLARS TO PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT DURING COVID, SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS WERE ENJOYING AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF FUNDS.

LET'S GET AHEAD OF WHAT THE DESIGN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE COSTS AND THE TIMING, ETC.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS.

>> DAREN.

>> I THINK I AGREE WITH 100% OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT CDC MONEY, IN MY OPINION, IS DESIGNED TO DO.

THE DESIGN ITSELF, IF WE DON'T DO IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO, OR PROBABLY EVEN FIVE, IT'LL STILL BE GOOD DOWN THE ROAD WHENEVER WE DECIDED TO DO IT.

SO IT'S EASY TO GET BEHIND THIS FOR ME.

>> THANK YOU. CARL, DID YOU STILL WANT TO?

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> WHEN I SEE THE RED, I'M THINKING THAT YOU WANT TO TALK.

I WOULD JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID IN THE SENSE THAT, APPROVING THIS DESIGN, THAT'S ALL IT IS.

IT DOESN'T LOCK YOU INTO DOING ANYTHING ELSE LATER.

OBVIOUSLY, THE ANTENNA IS EVENTUALLY TO BUILD THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR LAND WAS LAND THAT WAS DONATED TO THE CITY.

WE COULDN'T EVEN BUILD A TRAIL OR DESIGN A TRAIL ON THAT LAND UNTIL THE LAND WAS IN OUR POSSESSION.

AND SINCE THAT'S ONLY HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST CAME UP.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS IS ON THE ROWLETT CREEK TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH IS PART OF THAT MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OF HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SO IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE PURSUE THIS ONLY IN THE SENSE THAT IT HELPS CONNECT US TO PLANO TO MCKINNEY TO FRISCO.

AND I THINK THAT'S A BENEFICIAL THING.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT THIS TRACT OF LAND, IF YOU EVER GO OUT THERE AND WALK ON IT, THIS IS LIKE THE MECCA OF HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AREAS WITHIN OUR CITY.

THIS WILL BE A GYM WITH RESPECT TO OUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL SYSTEM.

I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE OF THAT.

GO AHEAD.

>> TO DAREN AND CARL'S POINT, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, DAVID.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK BACK IN '96 OR '97 THE CITY THERE WAS A VOTE TO APPROVE WHAT IS NOW THE CDC AND HALF SOME IMPOSITION OF A SALES TAX AND THAT'S CALLED 4B MONEY AND THAT 4B MONEY, AND I DON'T MEAN TO TALK DOWN ANYBODY, BUT IT'S INTENDED FOR PARKS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION AND HOW THE STATE LEGISLATORS HAVE CREATED THAT IS THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT MONEY IS FOR, ITS SALES TAX REVENUE DOLLARS AND IT'S NOT AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE.

WE HAVE A TRAIL MASTER PLAN AND KATE KNOWS THIS BETTER THAN ANYBODY.

WE STILL HAVE, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, MORE TRAILS TO BE BUILT AS PART OF THE SIXTH CITY PLAN.

IT'S ALL PART OF A MASTER PLAN.

I WILL SAY THIS, I WAS ON THE CDC BACK IN '11 OR '12 AND THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF SURVEYS DONE.

THERE'S A SURVEY NOW GOING ON BECAUSE WE'RE UPDATING THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN TODAY.

UNEQUIVOCALLY, THE NUMBER ONE RANKED THING ALL OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ASKED FOR WHAT WAS THEIR TOP PRIORITY AS A CITY WAS TRAILS AND NATURE TRAILS.

IT WASN'T THE HERITAGE VILLAGE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT.

I THINK THIS IS A DESIGN ELEMENT.

[00:15:03]

THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHY BACK IN '96, WE ADOPTED THE CDC TO DO PROJECTS EXACTLY LIKE THIS.

I GUESS WE'RE FORTUNATE AND I WAS TALKING TO OUR CFO, PETE PHILLIS, IS THAT COMING IN IS OUR SALES TAX REVENUE THIS YEAR ARE ROBUST.

I KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS GOT TO BE COGNIZANT OF DECLINES.

BUT TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS ABOUT THE PANDEMIC.

AND WE'VE RECOVERED FROM THAT.

SO A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THE TRAIL GETS DONE, MAYBE PERHAPS THE ECONOMY IS DIFFERENT.

I THINK CARL ALLUDED TO THE GRANTS, I'M SORRY, DAVE, I THINK YOU DID, IT POSITIONS US TO SEEK GRANTS.

AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WHICH HASN'T BEEN LONG, THREE YEARS, BUT ON THE CDC, I DON'T KNOW OF A TRAIL THAT WE'VE DONE AS A CITY THAT THERE WASN'T A GRANT PIECE INCLUDED IN IT, WHERE THE CDC DID NOT HAVE TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET GRANTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT WORKSHOP ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE WE ARE AS A CITY IS GETTING GRANTS.

I JUST THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME AND THIS IS A PART OF A BROADER MASTER PLAN FOR OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH IS A PRIORITY TO OUR CITY.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME.

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS.

>> CHRIS, YOU MENTIONED VARIOUS SURVEYS.

I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN A SINGLE CITY SURVEY OUT THERE THOUGH THAT HAS GIVEN THE CITIZENS THE OPTION OF SAYING NONE OF THE ABOVE, LEAVE IT EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS.

NO, I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS SPENT.

IT'S VERY FOCUSED AND DRIVEN TOWARDS AN END RESULT.

>> I MEAN, IT'S SALES TAX DOLLARS.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE AN OUTLET MALL AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT THING GENERATES A LOT OF MONEY.

LAST I CHECKED, IT WASN'T JUST ALLEN SHOPPERS THAT SHOPPED AT THE OUTLET MALL.

GRANTED, IT IS PART OF OUR SALES TAX AT EIGHT AND A QUARTER PERCENT.

IT IS SALES TAX DOLLARS GENERATED FROM PEOPLE COMING IN FROM DALLAS, ANYBODY THAT SHOPS IN ALLEN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS SAY SHOP ALLEN, PLEASE.

>> IT'S SALES TAX DOLLARS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERY TAX DOLLAR, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT COMES FROM OR WHERE IT'S POINTED TO, EVERY SINGLE TAX DOLLAR ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYER.

IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE CITY.

IT IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE SOURCE IS.

>> MAYBE JUST BACK TO CHRIS'S POINT, THE CDC DOLLARS ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS PARK USE AND HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ARE A PART OF THAT.

BUT I THINK THE SIGNIFICANT THING IS THAT IF YOU APPROVE THE DESIGN, AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN, THAT POSITIONS US VERY FAVORABLY IN REGARDS TO GETTING GRANTS AND GETTING LARGER GRANTS.

TO CHRIS'S POINT THAT HE SAID EARLIER, IS IF IT'S SHOVEL-READY, AND YOU ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE AND PUT SOME MONEY INTO IT AS WELL, YOU MOVE HIGH UP ON THAT LIST IN REGARDS TO GETTING THOSE GRANTS.

WHAT'S REALLY GOOD IS THAT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE AHEAD OF YOU ON THAT LIST AND THEY ARE NOT SHOVEL-READY, YOU SKIP AHEAD OF THEM.

THAT HAPPENS WITH BOTH THESE TYPE OF GRANTS AS WELL AS GRANTS FOR ROADS.

WHENEVER YOU'RE SHOVEL-READY, IT'S SUCH A BIG ADVANTAGE OVER ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU COMPETE WITH.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THE POSITION OF BEING READY SO THAT WHEN THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE CAN TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM, WAS IT 4.6 OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE VOTE NOW.

THIS ITEM PASSES SIX TO ONE.

[5.1 Conduct a Public Hearing and Adopt an Ordinance to Amend the Development Regulations of Planned Development No. 56 with a Base Zoning of Shopping Center to allow “Restaurant (with drive-in or drive-through)” as a Permitted Use and to Adopt a Concept Plan and Building Elevations for the Property Located at 2021 W. McDermott Drive. (Salad and Go)]

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND THAT ITEM IS ITEM 5.1, WHICH IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 56 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SHOPPING CENTER TO ALLOW RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE-THROUGH AS A PERMITTED USE AND TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2021 WEST MCDERMOTT DRIVE.

THIS PROJECT IS THE SALAD AND GO FACILITY.

HALEY ANGEL FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, HAYLEY.

>> GOOD EVENING.

[00:20:03]

THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN PD AMENDMENT FOR SALAD AND GO.

THE PROPERTY IS ROUGHLY IDENTIFIED BY THE YELLOW STAR AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S JUST SOUTH OF MCDERMOTT DRIVE AND JUST EAST OF CUSTER.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED AND SURROUNDING ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES TO THE NORTH ACROSS MCDERMOTT, THERE IS AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACE, TO THE EAST, THERE IS PD 56, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, THERE'S PD 56 SHOPPING CENTER.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF IS ALSO CURRENTLY ZONED PD 56 SHOPPING CENTER.

AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S AN ALREADY DEVELOPED SITE WITH AN EXISTING BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT TONIGHT IS PROPOSING TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN THAT ACTUALLY REMOVES THIS BUILDING AND BUILDS A NEW ONE AND ADOPTS A USE THAT IS A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH AND WE'LL GET INTO WHY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE IN A SECOND.

LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE, YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA THAT'S ROUGHLY BOUNDED BY THE LANDSCAPED AREAS AND DRIVE THROUGH IS THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S BEING REDEVELOPED.

YOU CAN SEE THE 780 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THIS IS A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH AND DIFFERENT THAN MOST OTHER RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THIS ACTUALLY HAS NO ON-SITE DINING FACILITIES.

IN THE ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE WAY THE DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH IS WRITTEN, IT REQUIRES ON-SITE DINING FACILITIES.

THAT IS THE REASON THE APPLICANT IS COMING THROUGH TONIGHT IS TO CREATE A NEW LAND USE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT.

LOOKING AT THE SITE, THERE IS A MAIN ACCESS POINT OFF OF MCDERMOTT DRIVE, BUT OF COURSE, AS PART OF A SHOPPING CENTER, THERE ARE MANY CONNECTIONS THROUGH PARKING AISLES.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRIVE-THROUGHS.

THE MORE TRADITIONAL, IF YOU WILL, HERE, THAT ULTIMATELY IS SERVED BY A WINDOW ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

YOU GO TO A MENU BOARD, YOU PLACE YOUR ORDER, YOU GO PICK IT UP.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE IS ANOTHER DRIVE-THROUGH.

THIS IS FOR MOBILE APP ORDERS ONLY, SO YOU'RE GIVEN A DESIGNATED TIME TO ARRIVE AT THAT WINDOW, STATE YOUR NAME, GRAB YOUR MEAL, AND YOU CAN BE ON YOUR WAY.

HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE BUILDING.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET TALL WITH STUCCO AS THE PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIAL.

OF COURSE, WE CAN NO LONGER REGULATE BUILDING MATERIALS, BUT IT IS SHOWN FOR REFERENCE.

HERE ON THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, OF COURSE, WE REFERENCE THE CONCEPT PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED, AND WE PROPOSE THE NEW DEFINITION.

WHEN STAFF WAS CONFRONTED WITH THIS REQUEST, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A CHANGING LANDSCAPE IN THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.

THIS CERTAINLY WON'T BE THE ONLY REQUEST WE SEE FOR THIS TYPE OF DRIVE-THROUGH.

WHEN WE REWROTE THE DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT, OUR INTENT IS ACTUALLY TO BE ABLE TO MIRROR THIS LATER ON IN AN LDC AMENDMENT TO BETTER CAPTURE THIS TYPE OF RESTAURANT.

THERE YOU CAN READ IT HERE YOU'LL SEE THAT IT DOES EMPHASIZE THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ON-PREMISE DINING, SO IT'S ALLOWED BUT NOT REQUIRED.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS WELL.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> HI. I DID WANT TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

>> SURE.

>> THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES BEHIND THIS.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> IT'S NOT A BIG IMPACT, BUT AS MUCH AS YOU'RE SAYING NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS.

>> CORRECT.

>> DOES THAT MEAN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE THINKING THAT, HEY, I GOT A BANK, OH NO, YOU DON'T, NOW YOU GOT A RESTAURANT.

>> SURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS THE DRIVE-THROUGH PORTION OF THE BANK THOUGH IT'S PERHAPS AT A DIFFERENT INTENSITY AS THIS RESTAURANT.

>> RIGHT.

>> IF THE RESTAURANT HAD INCLUDED SOME PORTION OF DINING FACILITIES, WHETHER THAT WAS OUTSIDE, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

THE INTENSITY OF THE CAR SIDE OF THIS USE IS ABOUT UNPARALLEL WITH WHAT WE WOULD SEE WITH OTHER DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS.

>> RIGHT.

>> BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. THERE'S A FEW AMOUNT OF HOMES.

>> I GUESS REALLY MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW WE GOT RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE, ABOUT THE LIGHTING LEAKAGE, THE VOLUME OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH SPEAKER, ACTUALLY THERE'S ONLY FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES, BUT STILL.

>> IT'S STILL IMPORTANT.

>> YES.

>> SIMILAR TO LIGHTNING WHERE WE HAVE A MEASUREMENT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, THE SAME IS TRUE FOR NOISE.

IF THEY WERE TO EVER EXCEED THAT, IT COULD BE CODE COMPLIANCE.

THOUGH THAT'LL CERTAINLY BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OF COURSE.

>> CAN WE CONSIDER THOUGH, ANOTHER USE FOR THIS PROPERTY WITHIN LESS 12 MONTHS; IS THAT CORRECT? TO SAME LOCATION?

>> 2019 ACTUALLY IS WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED FOR A BANQUET HALL USE.

AT THAT TIME, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO INCLUDE THE DRIVE-THROUGH AREA FOR THAT BANQUET HALL USE AND THAT TONIGHT JUST NEVER CAME TO BE.

THE PROPERTY WENT BACK ON THE MARKET AND WE HAVE OUR NEW APPLICANT HERE.

>> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

>> SURE.

>> HEY. [NOISE] JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I WENT BY THERE'S ONE IN RICHARDSON.

THERE'S ONE GOING UP IN FAIR VIEW.

[00:25:02]

THE ONE IN RICHARDSON WAS IN OPERATIONS AND DIDN'T LOOK INTRUSIVE AT ALL.

A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S A CUTE CONCEPT THAT DRIVE-THROUGHS ARE BIG RIGHT NOW.

AS WE KNOW, THE INSIDE DINING IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN.

BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING INTRUSIVE AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> YOU STILL WANT TO TALK, CARL?

>> SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> I SEE THE RED MIC, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU.

[LAUGHTER] DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HALEY BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING? DID THE PROPONENT WANT TO TALK NOW?

>> THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[NOISE] WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST TO PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I DO HAVE ONE CARD, WHICH IS FROM MATT KOPPENHAVER, 5555 EAST VAN BUREN STREET, PHOENIX, ARIZONA, SAID HE WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, AND I PRESUME YOU'RE THE PROPONENT.

>> I AM. [LAUGHTER]

>> I DO LIVE HERE IN TEXAS NOW, THAT'S OUR CORPORATE OFFICE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I ACTUALLY WAS A RESIDENT OF ALLEN FOR ABOUT A YEAR-AND-A-HALF.

>> OKAY. GO AHEAD.

>> BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS.

ON THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK, WE'LL OPEN OUR EIGHTH LOCATION HERE IN THE METRO.

HEADQUARTERED OUT OF PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

WE STARTED THERE ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.

HUSBAND AND WIFE FOUNDED THE CONCEPT REALLY BORN OUT OF A HEALTH NECESSITY FOR HIS FAMILY.

WE HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FUNCTION THAN A LOT OF YOUR TYPICAL QUICK SERVE RESTAURANTS, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FULLY VERTICALLY INTEGRATED SUPPLY CHAIN.

WE HANDLE ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION, MEANS OF PRODUCTION, ETC, AT OUR CENTRAL MANUFACTURING FACILITIES AND WE DISTRIBUTE TO OUR RETAIL LOCATIONS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

YOU'RE GETTING FRESH FOOD THAT WAS PRODUCED NO MORE THAN 48 HOURS THE DAY BEFORE.

WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PASS THAT SAVINGS ALONG TO THE CONSUMER.

WE DO A 48 OUNCE PORTION OF SALAD WITH PROTEIN FOR $5.74, ABOUT HALF OF WHAT A LOT OF THE OTHER SALAD LOCATIONS DO.

WE HAVE ABOUT 48 UNITS NETWORK WIDE TODAY.

WHEN I STARTED THE COMPANY, WE WERE 14 UNITS, SO WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH OVER THE LAST TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS, MAKING A BIG PUSH HERE IN DALLAS, FORT WORTH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG MARKET FOR US.

THIS YEAR, WE'LL OPEN ANOTHER 25-ISH LOCATIONS ACROSS THE METRO AND HAPPY TO BE HERE IN ALLEN AS WELL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT?

>> JUST MONEY. I MAKE MONEY. [LAUGHTER]

>> I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST? IF NOT, [NOISE] I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN TO THE MATTER BACK OVER TO THE COUNCIL.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? [NOISE] IF NOT, THEN CAN WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER FOR THIS SHOWING?

>> YES, SIR. IT'S ORDINANCE NUMBER 3891-2-22.

>> I WOULD NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 3891-2-22 TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, [NOISE] A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 56 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SHOPPING CENTER AND TO ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR LOT ONE BLOCK A, CUSTER MCDERMOTT ADDITION.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE VOTE NOW IN JUST A SECOND.

[LAUGHTER]

>> VOTE NOW. THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK IN ALLEN. THANK YOU.

>> WELCOME TO ALLEN.

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 5.2 TO

[5.2 Authorize the City Manager to Execute a Contract with Whirlix Design, Inc., for Bethany Lakes Park Inclusive Improvements in the Amount of $220,501.]

AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH WHIRLIX DESIGN INC. FOR THE BETHANY LAKES PARK INCLUSIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $220,501.

KATE MEACHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, KATE ONCE AGAIN.

>> GOOD EVENING. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD OUR INCLUSIVE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BETHANY LAKES PARK.

BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CBC TOWN HALL PROCESS WHEN WE HAD A MOTHER WITH A CHILD WITH LIMB DIFFERENCES WHO CAME FORWARD EXPRESSING SOME CONCERNS.

WHILE ALL OF OUR PARKS ARE ADAPTIVE AND HAVE DIFFERENT FULLY ADA ACCESSIBLE,

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WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENCES THAT EITHER SOME CHILDREN OR ADULTS HAVE.

SHE EXPRESSED SOME INTERESTS IN US PURSUING SOME ADDITIONAL FEATURES THAT ARE PARKS.

THAT'S WHAT LED US DOWN THIS PATH.

WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

WITH THIS TYPE OF INCLUSIVE PLAY, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR.

WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE TREND OUT THERE OF HAVING FULL PLAYGROUNDS BE FULLY WITH THE PORT IN PLAY.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE HERE, A LITTLE CHILD WITH A WHEELCHAIR IS ABLE TO GET INTO THAT PLAY FEATURE.

WE REALLY WANTED TO BE SURE WHEN WE WERE EXPLORING DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT OUR COMMUNITY SIZED PARKS.

WE COULDN'T PUT IT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK OR A POCKET PARK BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING OR RESTROOMS AVAILABLE.

WE REALLY EXPLORED ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PARKS AND LANDED ON BETHANY LAKES AS THE BEST PARK.

WE ORIGINALLY WAS LOOKING AT KIDMANIA CELEBRATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S GETTING TO THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN.

WE'RE AT 20 YEARS NOW [LAUGHTER] FOR THAT PLAYGROUND.

HERE THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START EXPLORING [NOISE] REPLACING THAT PLAYGROUND.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO AND PUT NEW PLAY FEATURES IN AND MAKE IT VERY POPULAR TO HAVE TO RIP IT BACK OUT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

ALLEN STATION PARK WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD A PACKAGE HERE PRETTY SOON.

THAT WAS ALREADY TOO FAR ALONG IN DESIGN.

FORD IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH A MASTER PLAN REALLY SOON.

WE'LL EXPLORE IT AT THAT POINT.

THEN THE LAST ONE IS SPIRIT PARK, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING PHASE 2 OUT THERE.

AS WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE REALLY LANDED ON BETHANY LAKES PARK AS THE BEST ONE FOR US TO LOOK AT.

THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF THE PARK PLAYGROUND AREA AND WE'RE NOT REPLACING ANYTHING EXISTING THERE.

THAT PLAYGROUND IS STILL FULL LIFECYCLE, SO WE WOULD NOT EXPECT TO HAVE TO REPLACE THAT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

>> WHAT'S THE GROUND COVERING THERE SO THAT IT'S WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE?

>> WE'RE GOING TO DO A POUR AND PLAY IT WILL ACTUALLY BE THE SOFT SURFACING.

THAT WAY, WHEELCHAIRS CAN GET RIGHT OUT ONTO THE DIFFERENT AREAS.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL PICTURE, WE'RE EXPANDING THE AREA BY 1450 SQUARE FEET.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE ORIENTATION, YOU CAN SEE THE PLAYGROUND DIRECTLY BELOW THAT YELLOW PART TO THE PLAN NORTH AREA IS WHERE WE WOULD EXPAND IT.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE YELLOW IS WE WOULD GO OFF FROM THE SIDEWALK AND WE'D HAVE THAT POUR IN PLACE SURFACING ALL THROUGHOUT THAT YELLOW AREA, THAT WE'LL BE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

HERE'S SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FEATURES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AND SOME OF THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL.

LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE POUR IN PLACE, A LOT OF SENSORY ELEMENTS.

A LOT OF THE KIDDOS AND ADULTS WITH DIFFERENT SENSORY ISSUES.

WHILE WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF SWINGS THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN USE AT VARIOUS PARKS, WE REALLY WANTED TO HONE IN ON THAT SENSORY ELEMENT, INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE SENSORY ELEMENT AT A PARK, HAVING A COLLABORATION OF MANY DIFFERENT ONES.

BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS WITH SENSORY ISSUES, THEY WANT TO GO FROM ONE TO ANOTHER, TO ANOTHER AND EXPERIENCE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'S WHY WE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON THE SENSORY, THE MUSICAL PIECES.

IF YOU CAN SEE ON THAT BOTTOM PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL IN A WHEELCHAIR IS ABLE TO TRANSFER ONTO ONE OF THE ROLLER TABLES AND HAVE SENSORY THAT WAY, AS WELL AS THE INCLUSIVE MERRY-GO-ROUND THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE.

HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PICTURES FROM SOME DIFFERENT ANGLES.

WITH THIS, CDC FUNDED $200,000, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WERE GOING THROUGH THE CONCEPT, WE STILL HAD IT NARROWED IN EXACTLY WHICH PARK WE WERE GOING TO DO OR HOW WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO WORK WITH WHIRLIX, THE COMPANY THAT WE CHOSE TO REALLY BRING A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

THEY FUNDED THE $200,000 UPFRONT.

WE REALLY FELT STRONGLY ON THE POUR IN PLACE ASPECT OF IT, WHICH DID PUT THE COSTS OVER THAT $200,000.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING SOME OF THE SOUTHEAST PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES THAT WE GET OUT OF THAT QUADRANT TO COVER THE OVER 20,501 TO BRING IT TO 220,000.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> SORRY.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO ON BETHANY LAKES PARK OR IS IT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT FUTURE FOR ALL PARKS?

>> YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO CAME TO LIGHT WHEN THIS MOM CAME AS THE EDUCATION OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS REALLY BEING ADA ACCESSIBLE AND THE DIFFERENT.

IF YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH THIS TYPE OF [NOISE]

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DIFFERENCE OR A DISABILITY OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

ACTUALLY OUR INTERN THIS SEMESTER IS GOING AROUND AN AUDITING ALL OF OUR PARKS AND WE'RE CREATING A WEBSITE.

[NOISE] INDIVIDUALS COULD ACTUALLY GO AND SAY, IF I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH SENSORY ISSUES, HERE ARE THE PARKS WE RECOMMEND WITH PICTURES, PARKING, HAVE EVERYTHING LAID OUT FOR THEM.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WE'VE TAKEN ON AGAIN, AS AN OUTCOME OF THIS MOM COMING FORWARD TO BETTER EDUCATE AND THEN ALSO DOING THIS PROJECT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY BEING MORE AWARE AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING.

BEING VERY AWARE OF WHERE WE PLACE THEM, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE MORE SUITED FOR THE COMMUNITY LEVEL PARKS VERSUS A SMALLER PARKS.

BUT AS WE REDEVELOP, FORD AND SPIRIT, ADDITIONAL AND SPIRIT, AND SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS, WE'LL BE VERY AWARE.

ESPECIALLY WITH KIDMANIA, I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WITH KIDMANIA.

>> BAINE.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THUMBS UP.

IT'S AWESOME. REALLY IS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO SAVE THE SAME THING.

KUDOS YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY SPECIAL NEEDS OF SOME OF OUR KIDDOS.

>> DAVE.

BEFORE WE SPEND THIS MONEY, I'M GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION, ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE VERY SPECIFIC SETTINGS AT EACH ONE OF THESE PARKS FOR THE VARIOUS HANDICAPS AT HAND, OR IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE COMING BACK AND WE'RE WANTING TO CHANGE EACH AND EVERY PARK?

>> NO, THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE, IT'S PART OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WE HAVE OUR PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PLAN.

IT'D JUST BE PART OF THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PLAN.

IT'D JUST BE A DIFFERENT LENS THAT WE PLACE ON IT.

AS WE ARE REDEVELOPING THE PLAYGROUNDS, WE WOULD LOVE TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS IN A VERY STRATEGIC WAY, ESPECIALLY ON THAT COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL PARK LEVEL.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL?

>> I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING, I THINK IS A GREAT THING.

IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE CITIZENS BROUGHT THIS TO US RATHER THAN US TRYING TO READ ALL THE TEA LEAVES AND GUESS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS AND THEN DOING IT.

THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO US, EXPRESSED THE NEED AND IT'S A GREAT NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN WITH THE MOM AFTER THE MEETING WITH CDC.

WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND WE SAT DOWN WITH HER CHILD AND WENT THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR YOUR CHILD.

BUT SHE WAS ALSO VERY AWARE OF ALL THE OTHER KIDS, AND ALL OF THE OTHER DIFFERENCES, SO IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE.

>> MY HATS OFF TO YOU-ALL FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH THIS.

ALSO WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH WHIRLIX DESIGN INC, FOR BETHANY LAKES PARK, INCLUSIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $220,000.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE VOTE NOW.

>> THANK YOU, KATE. THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THAT.

[5.3 Authorize the City Manager to Execute a Five-Year License Agreement with Allen Hockey Team, LLC, dba Allen Americans Hockey Club, to Base a Professional East Coast Hockey League Hockey Team at Credit Union of Texas Event Center.]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS 5.3, TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A FIVE-YEAR LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH ALLEN HOCKEY TEAM, LLC DOING BUSINESS AS ALLEN AMERICANS HOCKEY CLUB TO BASE A PROFESSIONAL EAST COAST HOCKEY LEAGUE HOCKEY, TEAM AT CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, TIM HITLER IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IN NOVEMBER OF 2009, THE ALLEN AMERICANS PLAYED THEIR VERY FIRST GAME AT THE ALLEN EVENT CENTER, WHAT WAS CALLED THE ALLEN EVENT CENTER AT THAT TIME.

ALMOST 13 YEARS LATER, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THEY STILL CALL THE ALLEN, WELL, IT'S NOT THE ALLEN EVENT CENTER ANY LONGER THEY STILL CALL ALLEN THEIR HOME.

IT'S NOW THE CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY TONIGHT WE BRING BEFORE YOU A PROPOSE LICENSE AGREEMENT, OFFICIALLY CALLING ALLEN THE HOME UNTIL 2027.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE ALLEN AMERICANS AS OUR PARTNER, AND TO BE QUITE HONEST OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, STAFF HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME FROM BOTH ENTITIES DILIGENTLY WORKING THROUGH HOW DO WE MAKE THIS AGREEMENT BETTER.

I CAN HONESTLY SAY THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE GAINED A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH ORGANIZATION IS DIFFERENT, BUT IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR EACH OTHER, WE HAD TO DO OUR PART.

I THINK WE CREATED SOME BASIC PRINCIPLES AND CRITERIA AS WE WENT ALONG, AND WE CRAFTED AN AGREEMENT WHICH NOT ONLY HOLDS EACH ORGANIZATION ACCOUNTABLE, BUT IT LEVERAGES EACH OTHER'S RESOURCES FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE.

TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A FEW MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS.

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I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AS WE WENT THROUGH THE SIX MONTHS.

IT'S VERY HARD TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE TERMS LIKE THIS WHEN OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ALL OUT FOR THE SAME PURPOSE.

WE ALL WANT TO TRY TO CREATE SOME NET REVENUE OR PROFIT, AND SO WE HAD TO REALLY WORK HARD TO COME TO SOME MIDDLE GROUND ON SOME THINGS.

I FIRST WANT TO RECOGNIZE JOHN LONG WHO'S A SPECIAL COUNSEL TO THE OWNER.

MIKE WADDELL, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT AND GOVERNOR OF THE ALLEN AMERICANS AND I'LL BE HAVING MIKE COME UP HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.

I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE KATE MEACHAM, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

KATE, THEY'VE SEEN YOU BUT YOU'RE IN THE BACK.

WE HAVE BILL HARMAN THE GENERAL MANAGER, THE CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS, BILL.

WE HAVE ROSS GIRARD, WHO IS ALSO AN ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER AT THE VENUE, AND WE ALSO HAVE MIKE MARTIN WHO WAS VERY MUCH INVOLVED, HE'S AN ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER AT THE VENUE AS WELL.

THIS AGREEMENT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE COOPERATION AND FOCUS FROM ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED.

FINALLY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE JACK GULATI.

UNFORTUNATELY, JACK COULD NOT BE HERE DUE TO SOME UNEXPECTED HEALTH CONCERNS LAST WEEK, HE IS DOING WELL.

HE'S ACTUALLY WATCHING TONIGHT, I HOPE HE WAS ABLE TO GET ON.

WE WISH HIM WELL AND SAY, WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU BACK HERE, JACK.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE JACK FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND WILLINGNESS TO FIND THE COMMON GROUND.

OBVIOUSLY AS THE OWNER OF THE TEAM, HE'S A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND MAKING SURE HE CAN FUND THE TEAM, KEEP THE TEAM HERE, AND MAKE ALLEN THEIR HOME AND SO WE WANT TO THANK JACK FOR HIS WILLINGNESS TO FIND THAT COMMON GROUND AS WE WORK THIS AGREEMENT.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK MIKE WADDELL TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.

HE HAS A SHORT MESSAGE FROM MR. GULATI.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M READING THIS FOR JACK D. GULATI, WHO IS WATCHING FROM FLORIDA TONIGHT.

GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THE ATTENDEES.

MY NAME IS JACK GULATI AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'M THE OWNER OF THE ALLEN HOCKEY TEAM, LLC.

I'VE OWNED THE TEAM FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND I HAVE ENJOYED OUR CLUB PLAYING HOCKEY AT THE CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER.

EVEN THOUGH THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE INDEED BEEN CHALLENGING DUE TO COVID, WE'RE EXCITED THAT THIS AGREEMENT IS DONE.

I HAD PLANNED TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO A HEALTH REASON, I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TRAVEL TO ALLEN FROM MY HOME IN FLORIDA.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT I SHOW BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS TRIP DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL IN PERSON.

OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THE CITY OF ALLEN AND THE ALLEN AMERICAN STAFF HAD DILIGENTLY BEEN WORKING IN NEGOTIATING A NEW FIVE-YEAR TERM UNDER WHICH THE ALLEN AMERICANS WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY HOCKEY AT THE CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER.

I AM PLEASED THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REACH AS AN AMICABLE AGREEMENT AND WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENT EFFORTS AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING IN ALLEN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND MANY YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU. PLEASE COME TO VISIT US AT THE HOCKEY GAMES, ESPECIALLY THE UPCOMING FIRE VERSUS POLICE ON ICE FOR THE 12TH ANNUAL GAME ON FEBRUARY 19TH.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME AT ANYTIME.

THAT'S FROM JACK GULATI. THANK YOU.

>> TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, I JUST KEEP SAYING IT, CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER WITH THE ALLEN AMERICANS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS.

FOR ONE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY GIVE MY REGARDS TO JACK.

IT'S UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AND APPRECIATE HIS MESSAGE TO US.

I'M ESPECIALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TEAM AND WHAT ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES TO SUPPORT HERE FOR THE ALLEN AMERICANS.

I KNOW THAT YOU-ALL HAVE PARTNERED WITH US IN VARIOUS WAYS, HELPED OUT WITH VARIOUS CHARITABLE ACTIVITIES, WHICH MAKES YOU A GREAT CORPORATE PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF ALLEN, AND WE LIKE DOING BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

IT'S A GOOD THING WE DON'T GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS EVERY YEAR THOUGH.

[LAUGHTER] I'M GLAD IT'S A FIVE-YEAR DEAL BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK.

BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE ALL THE JOB DONE IN THE PAST AND LIKEWISE, I LOOK FORWARD TO A GREAT RELATIONSHIP GOING FORWARD.

WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A FIVE-YEAR LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH ALLEN HOCKEY TEAM, LLC, DBA ALLEN AMERICANS HOCKEY CLUB, TO BASE A PROFESSIONAL EAST COAST HOCKEY LEAGUE, HOCKEY TEAM AT CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS EVENT CENTER.

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>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE VOTE NOW.

SOMEHOW MY PAPER WHEN I FLIPPED IT CHANGED MY VOTE.

[LAUGHTER] I FLIPPED THE PAPER, IT HIT THE SCREEN AND IT CHANGED THE VOTE.

I'M SORRY. YES, LET'S REDO IT.

I DON'T WANT THAT. [LAUGHTER] IT'S A SENSITIVE SCREEN I'M TELLING YOU.

LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.

>> THERE YOU GO. I THOUGHT YOU WERE PLAYING GAMES WITH ME, SHALL WE? [APPLAUSE].

>> NO INTENTIONS THERE, MIKE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT [LAUGHTER].

THAT ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[5.4 Authorize the City Manager to Execute a Meet and Confer Agreement with the Allen Firefighters Association.]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 5.1 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT WITH ALLEN FIREFIGHTERS AND DEPUTY CHIEF CITY MANAGER, ERIC STRONG IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO BE HERE AGAIN, I DID THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH A DIFFERENT ASSOCIATION, POLICE ASSOCIATION. I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH BRIEFLY.

THIS WON'T TAKE VERY LONG, BUT I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH BRIEFLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE FIRE ASSOCIATION.

I WON'T PULL ANY PUNCHES HERE.

I WILL TELL YOU UP FRONT, THIS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS FROM WHAT WE DID WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

POLICE DEPARTMENTS WAS TWO MEETINGS IN OUT OVER DONE.

THIS WENT ON LONGER, SOME MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION ARE HERE THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THEY PROBABLY WANTED TO THROW ME OFF THE ROOF DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

THEY MAY STILL, BUT I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A HARD PROCESS.

BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT THINGS TAKE YOU TO A REALLY GOOD PLACE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

WE WENT THROUGH A TOUGH PROCESS.

IT WENT ON FOR SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR.

WE HAD SIX OR SEVEN MEETINGS AND THEY WERE LONG MEETINGS.

WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN BETWEEN MEETINGS.

IT WASN'T ALWAYS PLEASANT, BUT I THINK WHAT THAT YIELDED WAS A REALLY GOOD AGREEMENT THAT GOT US TO A REALLY GOOD PLACE, SO I THINK WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.

TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE BACKGROUND AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MEETING CONFER PROCESS IS AUTHORIZED BY STATE STATUTE.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROCESS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO NOW, ALMOST EXACTLY THREE YEARS AGO, AND NOTHING HAPPENED WITH IT RIGHT BEFORE COVID STARTED.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THE AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED, FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE ASSOCIATION REACHED OUT AND SAID, LET'S GET THIS THING STARTED, AND THEN COVID HAPPENED AND THEY GOT BUSY WITH VACCINE HUBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND IT ALL JUST GOT PUT ON HOLD UNTIL APRIL OF LAST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED THESE MEETINGS.

SIMILAR TO THE POLICE AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WE'LL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY FOR ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND THERE'S THINGS IN THERE.

THEY'RE ALLOWED BULLETIN BOARDS.

THERE'S JUST ALL DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND WE CAN GO INTO EFFECT RIGHT AWAY.

FOR THE THINGS THAT DO COST MONEY, BUT WE'RE DOING IT POLICES THE SAME THING WE'RE PROPOSING WITH FIRE, WHICH IS STARTING NEXT MONTH.

WE'RE MID-YEAR IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK THEM INTO OUR BUDGET, MID-YEAR WITH SOME MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT, AND WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT FOR US.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN'T, THEN WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU IN AUGUST, AND WE'LL INCORPORATE IT INTO 2020-2023 BUDGET PROCESS.

THERE'S PROBABLY 10 OR 11 THINGS IN HERE, BUT LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THEM ARE PRETTY SMALL THINGS.

THE BIG ONES HERE, THEY'RE SIMILAR TO POLICE.

WE'RE DOING PAY ADJUSTMENT FOR FIRE, THAT IS, WE'RE KEEPING OUR SAME METHODOLOGY ON HOW WE CALCULATE WHAT THE MARKET IS.

BUT LIKE I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, SOON AS WE DO THAT, WE LOOK AT EVERYONE'S PAY, WE GET TO THE MARKET, AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS DONE THE SAME THING AND THEY JUMP AHEAD OF US IN OCTOBER.

NOW WE KNOW WHERE WE WERE EVEN THEY'VE GOTTEN BACK AHEAD OF US AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING DOING MARKET PLUS 2 PERCENT AGAIN, THAT'LL HELP LESSEN THAT GAP.

THERE IS A ONETIME COST TO THAT.

SAME WITH POLICE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A ONETIME COST OF A FEW $100,000 SOMEWHERE AROUND $250,000, WE'RE WORKING THOSE NUMBERS OUT.

BUT ONCE YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE JUST MOVING THAT BENCHMARK SAME AS YOU ALWAYS HAVE.

THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL ONETIME COST ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU DO EVERY YEAR ANYWAY.

WE ARE INCREASING ONE OF THEIR CERTIFICATION PAYS, IT IS NOT A LOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND WE'D LOOKED AT WHAT THE MARKET WAS PAYING FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO, AND IT WAS MOVING IT FROM 50 BUCKS A MONTH PER FIREFIGHTER TO $75 A MONTH SO IT'S NOT A LOT.

WE ARE OFFERING AN EDUCATION PAY, WE VALUE THAT.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE VALUING THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION AND PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES TO GO THROUGH WITH THOSE EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND BENEFITS THEM.

FIREFIGHTERS WRITE A LOT OF REPORTS ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS,

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AND THE MORE THEY CAN GO OUT AND GET THAT EDUCATION AND IMPROVE THOSE SKILLS, THE BETTER WE ALL ARE.

WE'RE ALSO IMPLEMENTING A HOLIDAY BUYBACK PROGRAM.

HOLIDAYS COME AND GO AND WE GET TO GO HOME AND SPEND WITH OUR FAMILIES, AND 1/3 OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T GET TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR, SAME WITH OUR POLICE, AND SO THEY WORK THOSE DAYS.

WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE IS IF THEY HAVE TO WORK ON CHRISTMAS, THEY GET A DAY THEY CAN TAKE OFF LATER IN LIEU OF AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT WORKS OUT WELL FOR THEM, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

THEY'D RATHER JUST SAY JUST PAY ME EXTRA FOR THE DAY THAT I WORKED, AND THAT SOLVES SOME OVERTIME PROBLEMS TOO.

WHEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE A DAY OFF IN THE FUTURE, THEY GOT TO SWAP WITH SOMEONE ELSE.

SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO COVER THE SHIFT, IT CAUSES OVERTIME PROBLEMS, AND SO THIS IS A WIN-WIN, I THINK, TO WHERE THEY HAVE THE OPTION, THEY CAN STILL SWAP THE DAY IN THE FUTURE IF THEY WANT, BUT UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEY CAN SELL SOME OF THOSE BACK IF THEY HAD TO WORK THE HOLIDAY AND JUST GET EXTRA COMPENSATION FOR IT, AND LIKE I SAID, IT SOLVES SOME OVERTIME PROBLEMS. THERE ARE SOME OTHER MINOR THINGS IN THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT CAME WITH THIS IS IT'S REALLY GOOD AS WE AGREED TO IMPLEMENT A CITYWIDE CATASTROPHICALLY BANK.

WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE, WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS AND THEY EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF TIME, AND WE PUT IN A PROVISION TO WEAR, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE FIRE, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE CITY TO WHERE IF SOMEBODY GETS ONE OF THESE ILLNESSES, THEY CAN POTENTIALLY TAP INTO THAT DONATED TIME.

IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING TO THE CITY BECAUSE I'M GIVING TIME INTO THAT BANK, AND SO WHETHER I USE IT OR SOMEONE ELSE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS AND SOME OTHER MINOR THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF IT.

BUT THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE.

LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY HAPPY AND VERY PLEASED WITH WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH THIS.

I JUST THINK IT GOT US TO A VERY GOOD SPOT AGREEMENT THAT I'M VERY HAPPY WITH.

I THINK IT'S NOT INTENTIONALLY, SO BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS FINANCIALLY AND WHAT'S IN THERE MIRRORS A LOT OF WHAT'S IN THE POLICE AGREEMENTS.

I THINK BOTH AGREEMENTS ARE VERY FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE NEXT STEP IS AFA HELD A VOTE ON THIS AND THEY VOTED 50:3 TO APPROVE IT OUT OF 70,74 MEMBERS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S CERTAINLY ENOUGH TO GET THIS PASSED, AND THE NEXT STEP IS IT'S UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, AND IF YOU VOTE ON IT, THEN MR. ELLWANGER WILL SIGN IT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND IT WILL BE OFFICIAL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS?

>> JUST FOR CONFIRMATION AND YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IT, BECAUSE THE TWO ASSOCIATIONS HAVE A SEPARATE MEAN CONFER PROCESS, AND WE LOVE ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

BUT CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THEN, BASICALLY, WE HAVE PARODY BETWEEN THE TWO.

>> GREAT QUESTION. I MENTIONED SOME OF THIS MARKET PLUS TWO PERCENT, THEY'RE BOTH GETTING THAT, SO THAT'S EQUAL.

THE COSTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THAT, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MORE POLICE PERSONNEL THAN THERE ARE FIRE I THINK.

THAT OBVIOUSLY THE COST IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE APPLYING IT TO MORE PEOPLE, AND IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

WHEN YOU TAKE THAT OUT, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE EXACT NUMBERS.

I THINK THE ANNUAL RECURRING COSTS FOR ONE OF THEM IS 135,000 AND THE OTHERS LIKE 130 IN OTHER THAN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS OF EACH OTHER, SO IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE COST IS TO THE CITY AND WHAT THE VALUE IS TO THE EMPLOYEES, IT'S ALMOST DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR OR A WASH. THAT WAS NOT PLANNED.

I JUST THINK AS WE WENT THROUGH IT AND LOOKED AT THESE THINGS AND LOOKED AT WHAT MADE SENSE.

THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKED OUT, AND I'M GLAD IT DID.

I THINK IT WOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING TO US IF WE WOULD HAVE SAID, BOY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDED $900,000 WORTH OF STUFF TO BECOME EQUITABLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONLY NEEDED 50,000.

IT WOULD HAVE SAID WE WERE NOT PROBABLY TREATING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

I THINK IT SPEAKS TO PAST DECISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS MADE, ALWAYS BE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYONE AND BE FAIR TO OUR EMPLOYEES, THAT THERE WASN'T A LOT THAT WE HAD TO DO FOR EITHER ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH ON PAR WITH EACH OTHER.

>> I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED LONG AND HARD ON THIS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. YOU COULD SEE ECHO WHAT I SAID TO HIM WHEN HE CAME TO THE POLICE.

DAVE SHAFER PROBABLY ECHO THIS AS WELL.

WE CAN'T POSSIBLY PAY THEM ENOUGH.

NO MATTER WHAT THE THINGS THEY DO FOR US, THEY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE DAY AND NIGHT, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS.

I CAN JUST SAY HOPEFULLY THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

>> I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE STILL IN THE QUESTIONS OR ARE WE GOING AROUND DOING COMMENTS?

>> NO. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, EITHER ONE.

>> I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PROCESS.

I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND, THEN I SAT IN ON THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MEET AND CONFER.

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IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE TRAIN WRECK.

THE LEADERSHIP OF THE IFA CAN'T COME IN AND THREW EVERYTHING ACROSS THE FENCE THAT THEY POSSIBLY COULD.

IT REALLY JUST FELT LIKE THEY WOULD SEE WHAT WOULD STICK.

IT'S NOT SURPRISING IT TOOK YOU SIX MEETINGS.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL WORLD, WHEN I SAT ACROSS THE TABLE LIKE THAT, IF I WOULD'VE COME IN AS UNPREPARED AS WHAT I SAW, I WOULD HAVE GOT KICKED OUT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE AFA RELATIONSHIP I THINK WITH THE CITY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP.

MR. PINK, YOU'RE LEARNING ON THE JOB ON THIS ONE AND I THINK OUR STAFF DESERVES BETTER.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHERS, DAVE?

>> I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT NOTION.

ONE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXTRAORDINARY PATIENT ERIC.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE ASSOCIATION KEEPS IN MIND THAT WE LOVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS WE LOVE OUR POLICE.

BUT WE HOPED THAT THE ASSOCIATION MODELS THEIR ACTIONS MORE IN LINE WITH THE POLICE ASSOCIATION IN HOW TO HANDLE THE MEET AND CONFER MEETINGS AND STAYING OUT OF LOCAL POLITICS.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I WILL TAG ON JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID.

I THINK EVERYONE HOPES THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE MEETINGS FOR A WHILE.

I SHOULD'VE SAID THIS EARLIER, THESE AGREEMENTS ALL LAST FOR TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS.

BARRING A NEED TO MEET AND THERE MAY BE A NEED TO MEET.

I THINK IT'S GOOD TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION AND CONTACT AND WE WILL WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.

BUT FORMAL MEET AND CONFER MEETINGS, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE HAVING MORE OF THOSE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, YEAR-AND-A-HALF UNTIL WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE TAIL END OF THIS AGREEMENT.

I KNOW THE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS GO TO LUNCH WITH MR. ELLWANGER TIME-TO-TIME KEEP TABS ON WHAT'S GOING ON, AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS COMMUNICATION.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, FORMAL MEETINGS ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A VERY COMMON OCCURRENCE FOR A WHILE. I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE.

>> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 5.4.

>> SECOND.

>> EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON.

IF SO PLEASE VOTE NOW AND I'M GOING TO KEEP MY PAPERS AWAY FROM THE SCREEN.

[LAUGHTER] ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 6.1,

[6.1 Calendar.]

WHICH IS THE CALENDAR.

WE HAVE ON FEBRUARY 19TH, OUR CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION COMING UP STARTING AT 08:30 AM AT THE HILTON GARDEN INN.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CALENDAR ITEMS OF INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL?

[6.2 Items of Interest.]

>> ON THAT FEBRUARY 19TH MEETING, ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME TO THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING BECAUSE, THAT'S WHERE THE ACTUAL BUDGET STARTS.

THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET PROCESS STARTS.

IF YOU LOVE TO ATTEND AND JUST COME SEE THE PROCESS, I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO COME.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST OR ANY OTHER CALENDAR ITEMS? I SHOULD SAY. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S HUGE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY HUGE.

I TOLD CHRIS NOT TO TELL ANYBODY AND HE'S ALREADY TOLD SOMEONE.

>> I DID NOT.

>> OKAY. MARCH 21ST OF THIS YEAR, THE ACO, WHICH IS ALL COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHO NOW SERVICES COLLIN COUNTY, NOT JUST ALLEN, IS HAVING THEIR GOLF TOURNAMENT AT CRAIG RANCH.

TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOLF TOURNAMENT AT CRAIG RANCH, THEY'RE VOTED TOP WHATEVER IN THE STATE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ON MARCH 21ST.

THEY PLAYED THE BYRON NELSON THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE REGISTRATION STARTS.

IT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OF THE ACOS WEBSITE.

THAT TOURNAMENT IS GOING TO GO REALLY FAST.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO IN AND CLICK, GET ON IT, GET READY TO GO.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. BAINE BROOKS?

>> YES YOU ARE. [LAUGHTER]

>> ANY OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST?

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>> I'VE GOT ONE ONLY BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE ORGANIZATION, WITH THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, WAS FORMED IN THE UNITED STATES 112 YEARS AGO TODAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, I WOULD TAKE A MOTION AND SECOND TO ADJOURN.

>> I DID HAVE ONE MORE.

I GOT ONE MORE. THIS IS BIG.

[LAUGHTER] THERE ARE A FEW SPOTS STILL AVAILABLE FOR THE ALLEN POLICE DEPARTMENTS CITIZENS ACADEMY CLASS.

THE CLASSES START ON MARCH 24TH.

IT'S A GREAT WAY TO LEARN ABOUT OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL ASPECTS OF THEIR OPERATIONS.

YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE AT ALLENPOLICE.ORG.

>> VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES.

>> IT'S ON PATROL.

>> DIDN'T YOU DO CITIZENS ON PATROL?

>> I DO.

>> I HAVE TO ASK CHIEF BOYD THIS QUESTION, BUT CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY IS ALSO RECRUITING TO FILL A CLASS RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WHEN DOES THAT CLASS START?

>> I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

[LAUGHTER].

>> SHOULD DO THAT MORE.

>> NO, WE CAN'T YOU THAT.

[BACKGROUND].

>> DID I ALREADY GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN?

>> NO, YOU DID NOT.

>> LET'S DO THAT. GO AHEAD.

>> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> SECOND.

>> LET'S VOTE.

>> Y'ALL ARE HAVING TOO MUCH FUN UP HERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.