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>> [MUSIC] AFTER WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT

[1. Call to Order and Announce a Quorum is Present.]

[BACKGROUND] THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ALLEN DFW POST 2195 DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR US.

THEY'LL BE LEADING THAT.

SHOW OF THAT DFW POST, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND START.

[BACKGROUND] [NOISE] THIS IS THE CLASH.

>> DETAIL. ADVANCE.

>> PLEASE RISE.

>> PREPARE POST COLORS.

POST. PRESENT ARMS. ORDER ARMS. PRESENT ARMS.ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ORDER ARMS, DETAIL, DISMISS.

>> EVERYONE CAN PLEASE BE SEATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH DFW POST 2195.

THE COUNCIL CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE DYESS.

YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE BLACK OFF.

>> YES.

>> AT THIS TIME AS EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE WE HAD AN ELECTION

[3.1 Recognition of outgoing Mayor Pro Tem Baine Brooks.]

AND ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS IS LEAVING THE COUNCIL FOR MAYBE A LITTLE VACATION I THINK BUT ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS OF TERM LIMITS ARE EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO GET OFF COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU'VE HIT THAT TERM LIMIT AND BAINE IS IN THAT SITUATION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BAINE IN A SPECIAL WAY HERE IN THIS MEETING.

MANY OF YOU WERE IN THE RECEPTION OUT IN THE ROTUNDA AND WE HAD A GREAT RECEPTION AND EVENT OUT THERE AND I HOPE THAT BAINE APPRECIATED THAT BUT IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND COME ON DOWN AT THIS TIME BAINE.

DURING THE RECEPTION WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT BAINE HAS BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL FOR 10 YEARS.

HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF KEY DECISIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HELPED MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND BECAUSE OF THAT WHAT WE LIKE TO DO WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES COUNCIL IS THAT WE LIKE TO PRESENT THEM WITH A COLLAGE.

A BIG PICTURE FRAME WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PICTURES THAT REPRESENT ALL OF THE KEY ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT OCCURRED DURING HIS TIME ON COUNCIL.

BAINE, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT YOU WITH THAT.

I HOPE THAT YOU APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF FOND MEMORIES BASED ON THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

FIRST I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEE IT AND THEN ONCE YOU LOOK AT IT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SHOW IT TO THE AUDIENCE.

BUT IT SAYS ON HERE, SAYS IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP, BAINE BROOKS, ALLEN CITY COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEMP PLACE NUMBER SIX, 2012-2022.

ALLEN IS A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU MAYOR.

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COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND WORKING TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS AND THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH, LIKE I SHARED EARLIER, WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT'S BEEN TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AND IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE.

MS. DEEDEE, THANK YOU FOR THE KIND LETTER THAT YOU SENT ME AND FOR THOSE WHO SENT ME LETTERS AND EMAILS I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

THEY WERE VERY KIND AND IT JUST MAKES THIS JOB WORTHWHILE.

IT'S REALLY NOT A JOB, IT'S A PRIVILEGE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIVILEGE OF BEING A PART OF GREATNESS.

I MEAN, BEING A PART OF A CITY THAT'S GREAT AND NOT A CITY THAT WANTS TO BE MEDIOCRE.

WE'VE MADE SOME STEPS ALONG THE WAY, SOME OF THEM GREAT AND SOME WERE NOT SO GREAT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF THINGS, TO BE ABLE TO BE VOTED ONE OF THE SAFEST CITIES IN TEXAS, TO BE VOTED NUMBER TWO BEST CITY TO LIVE IN MID-SIZED CITY TO LIVE IN, IT'S AWESOME.

I MEAN, THESE THINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN ON ACCIDENT.

THE PARKS, THE TRAILS, THE GOLD MEDAL THAT OUR PARK'S DEPARTMENT WON IN 2016, I TALKED ABOUT, EARLIER THIS WEEKEND, PEOPLE COMING TO ALLEN.

IT WAS SO BUSY. IF YOU CAME IN FOR THE CARD SHOW THIS WEEKEND, YOU HAD TO STAY IN MCKINNEY BECAUSE ALL OF OUR HOTELS WERE FULL.

RESTAURANTS WERE ON WEIGHTS AND THIS IS HOW WE LOWER THOSE TAXES.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO BE PROUD OF HERE IN ALLEN AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE CHRIS SCHULMEISTER FOR BEING REELECTED.

HE'S A GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

HE DOES HIS HOMEWORK AND YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON HIM DOING HIS HOMEWORK.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE BEN TRAHAN FOR HIS ELECTION AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO COME IN AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

WITH THAT SAID, I GUESS THESE ARE MY LAST WORDS AND I'M SO THANKFUL. I'M SO THANKFUL.

THANKFUL FOR MY WIFE, MY TWO DAUGHTERS FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND I LOVE IT.

I REALLY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE BUT I UNDERSTAND THE TERM LIMITS, I HAVE TO STEP OFF.

I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AND LET'S JUST KEEP IT GOING GREAT.

LET'S JUST CONTINUE TO BE GREAT, NOT MEDIOCRE, BUT LET'S JUST CONTINUE TO BE GREAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO TALK, I'M RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, AND IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, I'M RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, I ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. [APPLAUSE] FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> IT'S NOT YOURS.

>> SORRY. YOU NEED TO GET IT.

[BACKGROUND]

>> JULIE, YOU AND BRITNEY. COME DOWN PLEASE.

>> IT'S A HILL WEARING HEELS.

[LAUGHTER].

>> THIS IS MY FAMILY. THIS IS MY WIFE JULIE, MY DAUGHTER BRITNEY, MY OTHER DAUGHTER IS BRENNA, SHE'S ACTUALLY IN SEATTLE AND SHE'S A GYMNAST AND SHE'S IN SCHOOL.

I SAID THIS IS MY WIFE JULIE AND MY DAUGHTER BRITNEY AND MY OTHER DAUGHTER IS BRENNA BROOKS AND SHE IS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IN SEATTLE.

SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MY FAMILY, SO THANKS AGAIN.

[APPLAUSE]

>> SHE'S GOING TO GET YOUR NAME TAG. PLEASE BE SEATED.

WE HAVE ONE LAST SOUVENIR TO GIVE YOU BEFORE YOU HEAD ON YOUR LEISURELY TRIP HERE TOMORROW MORNING.

HE'S GETTING ON A PLANE GOING DOWN TO ROATAN, THAT BIG FANTASY ISLAND NORTH OF HONDURAS.

HE'S GOT SOME LAND THERE, A PLACE.

I THINK HE'S SETTING UP SHOP DOWN THERE.

DO YOU TALK TO AS MANY PEOPLE DOWN THERE AS YOU DO HERE?

>> NO, I'M ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THE RADAR.

[LAUGHTER] I JUST EAT EVERYWHERE.

>> PLEASE TAKE THIS, DISPLAY THAT SOMEPLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE IT SO THAT THEY

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CAN REMEMBER ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T THE END, THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT TO CONTRIBUTE IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

[3.2 Administration of the Oath-of-Office and presentation of the Certificate-of-Election to elected councilmembers for Place Nos. 4 and 6.]

>> [NOISE] WITH THIS IT'S TIME TO DO OUR OATHS OF OFFICE FOR OUR NEWLY ELECTED AND RE-ELECTED OFFICIALS.

CHRIS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO START WITH YOU.

[BACKGROUND]

>> IF YOU'LL PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY DONE.

DO YOU CHRIS SCHULMEISTER SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE NUMBER FOUR, CITY OF ALLEN, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, SO HELP YOU GOD.

>> I DO.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE]

>> LET'S STAY RIGHT HERE JUST FOR A SECOND.

>> I'LL LET YOU.

>> OKAY. [BACKGROUND] [NOISE] AS IS CUSTOMARY WHEN SOMEBODY COMES ON TO COUNSEL OR WHEN THEY'RE RE-ELECTED, WE PRESENT THEM WITH A NEW CITY VALLEN PIN.

NOW, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER, ONE FOR EACH LAPEL.

>> OKAY.

>> BUT [LAUGHTER] CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. GOOD LUCK.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. [APPLAUSE].

>> THIS IS THE CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION, MAKES IT ALL OFFICIAL.

>> I GET TWO OF THOSE NOW.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> GOOD. [LAUGHTER] [NOISE]

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[BACKGROUND]

>> WOULD COUNCIL MEMBER-ELECT BEN TRAHAN, JOIN ME.

[APPLAUSE] PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU BEN TRAHAN, SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER, PLACE NUMBER 6, CITY OF ALLEN, STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, SO HELP YOU, GOD?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[APPLAUSE] [NOISE]

>> AS WITH CHRIS, YOU GET YOUR LAPEL PINS.

NOW YOU CAN BE OFFICIAL AND LOOK LIKE, WELL, CLOSE TO EVERYBODY ELSE, MAYBE NOT THE SAME.

[LAUGHTER] BUT ALSO HERE'S YOUR CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION.

CONGRATULATIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE]

>> YOU'VE GOT THE PLATE.

[BACKGROUND]

>> WE'RE LOOKING FOR HIS NAME TAG, [LAUGHTER] THE BIG ONE.

[LAUGHTER].

>> YOU WILL OFFICIAL REPLACE IT.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE] YOU'RE NOW A MEMBER OF THE CLUB.

[LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] [NOISE] AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO LET NEWLY RE-ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS SCHULMEISTER SAY A FEW WORDS TO THE AUDIENCE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO JUST START BY THANKING THE RESIDENTS THAT VOTED FOR ME AND THOSE THAT WORKED SO DILIGENTLY ON MY CAMPAIGN.

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I MUST SAY THAT MY CAMPAIGN TEAM WAS A WELL-OILED MACHINE AND THEY CERTAINLY DID A HECK OF A JOB MAKING ME LOOK GOOD WHICH CAN BE HARD SOMETIMES.

I HAD LONGTIME FRIENDS, SOME NEW FRIENDS, FRIENDS FROM MY CHURCH, CERTAINLY A LOT OF MY FAMILY THAT ALL VOLUNTEERED AND WORKED TIRELESSLY TO HELP ME WIN THIS ELECTION.

I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS, I'M HUMBLED, AND BEING SAID IT'S SO TRUE AND GRATEFUL.

I ALSO WANT TO JUST THANK MY PASTOR FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND SHARING THIS NIGHT WITH ME.

[NOISE] I AM HUMBLED AND I'M GRATEFUL.

I SAID THROUGHOUT MY CAMPAIGN THAT IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF ALLEN.

I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, I DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

I PROMISE THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THE MOST BEST-PREPARED COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL THE TIME AND I PROMISE THAT, AS I SAID IN MY CAMPAIGN, THAT I WILL TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY WITH DIGNITY AND WITH RESPECT.

A VOICE SAID, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF ALLEN, REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACE, ETHNICITY, POLITICAL AFFILIATION, YOU NAME IT, YOU DESERVE A PLACE AT THE TABLE AND I WILL GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.

YOU DESERVE THAT. TO MR. TREY HAN, CONGRATULATIONS, WELL-DESERVED.

I COMPLIMENT YOU FOR A GREAT CAMPAIGN.

YOU ALSO HAD A GOOD TEAM.

YOUR POSITIVE MESSAGING THROUGHOUT YOUR CAMPAIGN AND OBVIOUSLY YOUR PASSION AND LOVE FOR THE CITY WAS APPARENT THROUGHOUT.

GOD KNOWS YOU TOOK IT ON THE CHIN A FEW TIMES [LAUGHTER] HERE AND THERE AND I GUESS THAT'S THE NATURE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

IN FACT, I WAS EXPECTING YOU WEARING ARMANI SUIT TONIGHT WITH ALL THAT MONEY YOU GET FROM DEVELOPERS.

[LAUGHTER] [NOISE] BUT THE ELECTION'S NOW BEHIND US AND IT'S NOW TIME FOR YOU AND I AND THE REST OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF ALLEN.

YOUR HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BEN TRAHAN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR LOGICAL THINKING UP HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SO CONGRATS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANKS, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. [APPLAUSE]

>> WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER BEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR FULK AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULMEISTER AND MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I'LL ASK YOU FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE IN HELPING ME WITH DECISION-MAKING SO HOPEFULLY, I CAN CALL EACH PERSON AND I ASK HIM GENUINELY FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE.

I PLEDGE TO DO THE SAME FOR EACH ONE OF YOU.

EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED IS AT YOUR DISPOSAL, JUST WANT TO BE A GOOD PART OF THIS BODY AND HELP THE CITY CONTINUE ON THE EXCELLENT PATH THAT OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS HAVE DONE AND JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

ALSO WANT TO THANK MY WIFE, CHRISTINE, AND MY THREE GREAT KIDS.

IT BEGINS AND STARTS WITH YOU ALL. JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

THEN ALL MY FAMILY WATCHING ONLINE, THANKS TO MARK HOFFMAN AND THE FINE PEOPLE OVER AT ACTV, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

FRIEND'S CAMPAIGN TEAM THAT HELPED MOTIVATE ME TO GET THROUGH NIGHTS WHEN I WAS READING POSTS AND TRYING NOT TO COMMENT BUT THANK YOU.

EVERYBODY HAD A MOTIVATING HAND IN THAT.

TO MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR RAISING ME TO TRY TO BE A GOOD PERSON AND CONTINUE THAT.

[NOISE] SHELLEY GEORGE AND THE CITY STAFF, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO BEYOND 40 HOURS, AFTER HOURS, NIGHTS, WEEKENDS.

YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE, YOU'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO LEND A HAND AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

TO MR. BEN BROOKS, I DON'T SEE HIM.

I WILL TRY TO MATCH HIS HEART, HIS DRIVE, HIS PASSION FOR THE CITY BUT THE ONE THING I WILL NOT TRY TO DO IS MATCH HIS FLAIR FOR DRESSING FOR THE OCCASION.

AS YOU KNOW, HE ALWAYS IS DRESSED VERY WELL.

BUT JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE AND I'VE APPRECIATED EVERY MEET AND GREET, EVERY HAND I SHOOK AND I JUST WANT TO DO A GREAT JOB FOR THE CITY SO THANK YOU ALL.

[APPLAUSE]

>> I'D LIKE TO AGAIN SAY WELCOME ABOARD AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 10-MINUTE RECESS TO GIVE THE NEWLY ELECTED AND REELECTED INDIVIDUALS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PHOTO OP WITH FAMILY AND TO ALSO MINGLE WITH FRIENDS.

IF YOU WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM OR GIVE THEM YOUR THANKS,

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THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT.

WE'LL RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES AND RECONVENE ABOUT 7:33. THANK YOU.

[MUSIC] I HADN'T RECONVENE

[4.1 Presentation of Proclamations by the Office of the Mayor.]

THE ALLEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THE NEXT TWO ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TO RECOGNIZE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS PUBLICLY.

[NOISE] [BACKGROUND] WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO PROCLAMATIONS.

THE FIRST PROCLAMATION IS 14 COURT DAY AND SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE [INAUDIBLE] COME FORWARD.

[INAUDIBLE] FROM OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, CITY OF ALLEN PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS ALLEN TEEN COURT IS A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM ESTABLISHED IN 2,000, THAT AIMS TO PROVIDE JUVENILES AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION IN AN EDUCATIONAL AND REWARDING WAY, AND WHEREAS THE ALLEN TEEN COURT ALLOWS JUVENILE DEFENDANTS TO DISPOSE OF THEIR CASES THROUGH INVOLVEMENT IN THE JUDICIAL PROCESS AND PERFORMANCE OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

IN WHEREAS THE ALLEN TEEN COURT GETS YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF BREAKING THE LAW BY ALLOWING TEENS TO SERVE AS PROSECUTING AND DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, BAILIFFS, JURORS, AND CLERKS WITH 71 VOLUNTEER ATTORNEYS AND 133 VOLUNTEER JURORS, AND ITS PRESENT POOL IN WHEREAS THE ALLEN CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION THAT THE ALLEN TEEN COURT MAKES TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE YOUTH OF THE CITY OF ALLEN.

NOW THEREFORE [INAUDIBLE] MAYOR OF CITY OF ALLEN, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM TUESDAY, MAY 24TH, 2022, AS TEEN COURT DATE IN ALLEN [APPLAUSE].

[INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING.

>> I WOULD. AS A JUDGE, I'VE ALWAYS GOT SOMETHING TO SAY [LAUGHTER].

FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THIS IS AWESOME PROGRAM.

JUDGE HOPPER STARTED THIS PROGRAM MANY YEARS AGO, THE SEVEN YEARS THAT I SERVED AS THE ALTERNATE JUDGE, I PRESIDED OVER IT AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP IT GOING SINCE I'VE BEEN APPOINTED AS THE PRESIDING JUDGE AND EVEN IN THE PANDEMIC, THERE WERE SIX MONTHS THAT WE STOPPED IT WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO GET REGULAR COURT FIGURED OUT VIRTUALLY, AND THEN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020 WITH TEEN COURT GOING VIRTUAL AND WE'VE MAINTAINED THAT SINCE THEN, JUST SINCE MAY OF 2021, SO A YEAR AGO, WE'VE HAD 82 CASES GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

OF THAT, 58 OF THEM HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED IT AND BEEN DISMISSED, WHICH MEANS THEY CAN DENY THAT THIS EVER HAPPENED AND IT DOESN'T GO ON THEIR RECORDS AS A PARENT OF FORMER TEENS NOW, 20 SOMETHINGS, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT WHEN WE'RE PAYING OUR INSURANCE FOR OUR KIDS CARS AND THERE'S 13 CASES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PENDING COMPLETION SO THAT MEANS THEY'VE BEEN TO TEEN COURT AND THEY'RE CONDUCTING ALL OF THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE RIGHT NOW.

NINE OF THEM ARE WAITING TO GO TO TRIAL AND THOSE WILL BE HELD PROBABLY IN THE NEXT MONTH.

WE'VE ONLY HAD OF THE 82 CASES, TWO THAT DID NOT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE PROGRAM [APPLAUSE].

IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT IS BENEFITING OUR KIDS.

AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NOT ONLY ATTORNEY KIDS PARTICIPATING AS ATTORNEYS, BUT AS JURORS ALSO, THIS NEXT MONTH, WE'RE BRINGING BACK TEEN COURT JURY TRIALS.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM VIRTUAL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THAT.

FOR THE LAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF, WE'VE BEEN DOING JUST BENCH TRIALS AND IN FACT, MY SENIOR ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN SITTING AS THE JUDGE.

WE'VE EVEN PASSED THAT ONTO THEM.

THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE TEEN COURT PROGRAM IS TWO YEARS AGO WE INSTITUTED THE TEEN COURT ACADEMY.

IT USED TO BE THAT ON A SATURDAY I CAME UP TO THE COURT, WOULD TEACH KIDS EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED TO KNOW TO BE A TEEN COURT ATTORNEY BETWEEN 08:00 AM, AND 1:00 PM.

I KNOW SOME LAWYERS THAT PRACTICE IN FRONT OF ME AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME THEY'VE PUT INTO IT [LAUGHTER] BUT WE DECIDED MAYBE THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

TWO YEARS AGO WE STARTED A PROGRAM TWICE A MONTH.

THE KIDS COME AND WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO OPENING STATEMENTS, ONE MONTH CLOSING STATEMENTS, DIRECT EXAMINATION, CROSS-EXAMINATION AND WITH THAT, THIS YEAR,

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WE HAD 17 KIDS SUCCESSFULLY GRADUATE FROM THAT ACADEMY, THAT RANGE FROM SENIORS DOWN TO EIGHTH GRADERS SO THIS NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE OUR TEEN COURT ATTORNEYS PARTICIPATING.

AGAIN, ANOTHER THANK YOU TO THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US IN BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

AS A MOM AND AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND JUVENILE DEFENSE ATTORNEY, GIVING KIDS A CHANCE TO FIRST OF ALL, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS, AND HAVE CONSEQUENCES, THAT'S IMPORTANT AND BE ABLE TO PUT THIS BEHIND THEM IN A POSITIVE WAY BY DOING COMMUNITY SERVICE.

I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN HOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR MISTAKES, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR MISTAKES AND PUT THEIR MISTAKES BEHIND THEM AND MOVE FORWARD.

I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I DO WANT TO CALL UP MY JUVENILE CASE MANAGER, HEATHER BURDETTE.

SHE IS THE ONE WHO COORDINATES EVERYTHING, KEEPS ALL THE KIDS, AND CONTACTED, GETS ASSIGNED FOR THE CASES.

I'D LIKE TO CALL UP ONE OF MY ALTERNATE JUDGES, JUDGE [INAUDIBLE], HER AND MY OTHER ALTERNATE JUDGE MCDERMOTT, WHO WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, THEY PRESIDE AT EACH OF THESE TEEN COURT TRIALS.

I'D LIKE TO CALL UP MY COURT ADMINISTRATOR.

NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE COURT WITHOUT MS. FARAH ALAN HELPING US.

THEN IN CASE ANYBODY DIDN'T KNOW, SCHOOL'S OUT FOR THE SUMMER.

BUT I DID GET TWO OF MY TEEN COURT KIDS TO SHOW UP TODAY, SO BOTH OF YOU WOULD COME UP [APPLAUSE].

THEY WENT THROUGH THE TEEN COURT ACADEMY LAST YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO.

YOU WERE LAST YEAR, AND THEY HAVE COME IN, VOLUNTEERED TO DEMONSTRATE FOR THE TEEN COURT ACADEMY, AND THEY ARE SOME OF MY TOP TEEN COURT ATTORNEYS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR THE RECOGNITION AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND TO THE PARENTS WHO SHARE YOUR CHILDREN WITH THIS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS MEANINGFUL PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? JUST GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED TO.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW GREAT THIS PROGRAM IS AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'VE CONTINUED IT SINCE LYNDA HOPPER STARTED IT.

IT'S SUCH A GREAT THING AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN SEE AND KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND THE DETAILS THAT YOU PROVIDED TO SHOW WHY IT'S SO GREAT AND WHY IT'S SO EFFECTIVE, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

>> [INAUDIBLE] WOULD LIKE TO STEP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAYOR [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND].

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [OVERLAPPING]ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

>> YES.

>> DID YOU EVER ACCUMULATE ANY STATISTICS ON THE ACADEMY AND AS FAR AS HOW MANY OF THOSE GRADUATES WENT ON TO LAW SCHOOL OR LAW CAREER?

>> WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED IT IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, THOSE MORE PROBABLY STILL GETTING HER BAD [OVERLAPPING] HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE, FOUR YEARS AGO, AND SOMEONE COULD BEEN IN THE T4 PROGRAM.

MS. BREWER REACHED OUT TO ME, SHE GRADUATED THERE IN LAW SCHOOL AND SHE SAID, I WANT TO COME AND VOLUNTEER AND HELP BECAUSE THAT PROGRAM EXCEPTION ATTACK ON ME WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND SO FOR A YEAR SHE CAME AND OFTEN SERVED AS THE JUDGE AND GIVE INPUT TO THE KIDS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL SINCE SHE ACTUALLY STOOD IN THEIR SHOES.

>> THAT'S AMAZING.

>> THE TIME I GROUPED IN DID NOT HAVE TEAM BOARD SO I NEVER HAD THAT DIVISION, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE GIVING THAT TO THE KIDS.

>> WELL, KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR STUDENTS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> FRANKLY APPRECIATE THAT. [APPLAUSE]

>> OUR SECOND FORM OF RECOGNITION THIS EVENING IS TO MAKE A PROCLAMATION ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS INVITE TO COUNCIL MEMBER DAVE CORNETT DOWN BECAUSE HE'S A MEMBER OF OUR LOCAL VFW POST.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERYBODY FROM COUNCIL BECAUSE NOW, THAT'S OKAY?

>> SURE.

>> AUXILLARY AS LONG AS VFW.

>> REALIZING THAT MEMORIAL DAY IS THE DAY THAT WE RECALL THOSE WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES TO PROVIDE US WITH THE FREEDOMS THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SO FREELY.

I WOULD ALSO ASK IF THERE'S ANY VETERANS IN THE AUDIENCE,

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IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD JUST SO THAT WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU AS WELL.

I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF YOU OUT THERE, SO YEAH.

>> [BACKGROUND] [NOISE].

>> WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY EACH YEAR SERVES AS A SOLEMN REMINDER OF THE SCOURGE OF WAR AND ITS BITTER AFTERMATH OF SORROW AND WHEREAS THE DAY HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN DEVOTED TO PAYING HOMAGE TO LOVED ONES WHO LIE ON HALLOWED GRAVES THROUGHOUT THE LAND, HAVING SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES SO THAT WAR MIGHT END, AND WHEREAS, IN TRIBUTE TO THE SILENT DEAD, MEMORIAL DAY IS SET ASIDE AS A DAY OF PRAYER FOR PERMANENT PEACE, AND WHEREAS, TODAY AND EVERY DAY, LET US REMEMBER THE SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WE HAVE LOST AND LET US HONOR THEM BY REDEDICATING OURSELVES TO STRENGTHENING OUR NATION'S PROMISE.

WITH LOVE, GRACE, AND REFLECTION, LET US HONOR OUR FALLEN FELLOW AMERICANS, KNOWN AND UNKNOWN, WHO SACRIFICED THEIR FREEDOM TO ENSURE OUR OWN.

NOW THEREFORE, I CALL UPON FORTH MAYOR OF CITY OF ALLEN, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 30, 2022 AS MEMORIAL DAY IN ALLEN, TEXAS.

[APPLAUSE] FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF YOU'RE A VETERAN OUT THERE AND YOU DIDN'T COME FORWARD, BUT FOR THE VETERANS THAT ARE UP THERE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.

ITS' VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND I'M A VETERAN ALSO, SO I FALL IN THAT CATEGORY MYSELF.

BUT ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE DAVE CORNETT THE MICROPHONE AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE VFW POST THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT HE SAYS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

THIS IS NOT A HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY.

THIS IS MEMORIAL DAY WE'RE HONORING THE DEAD THAT HAVE DIED TO GIVE US THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY.

IT'S NOT A THREE-DAY WEEKEND FOR BARBECUE AND PICNIC, AND NEVERTHELESS FINE.

WE WILL BE UP AT MARKET STREET PAVILION, IN A BUDDY POPPY DRIVE.

WHAT WE DO IS WE RAISE MONEY FOR OUR RELIEF FUNDS.

IF THERE'S EVER A VETERAN IN NEED AND REACHES OUT OR WE KNOW ABOUT HIM, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM.

WHETHER THEY'RE ARE A MEMBER OF THE VFW OR NOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HONORED AND GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I'M GOING TO LET MY COLOR GUARD COMMANDER HERE, FRANK SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING OUR COMRADE CORNETT WITH US [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S BEEN A TRYING YEAR THAT'S FOR SURE BEING THE FIRST YEAR IN CITY COUNCIL FOR VFW COMMANDER AND SOME DAYS I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS COMING OR GOING.

I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK EACH ONE OF YOU THAT'S HERE AND SOME THAT'S NOT HERE AND THE VFW FOR HAVING MY BACK IN THE PAST YEAR.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T HIT ALL THE GOALS WE WANTED BUT WE CAME CLOSE.

WE GREW THE MEMBERSHIP.

WE'VE BEEN THERE, AND JUST THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, AND THANK YOU, JACK FOR STEPPING UP FOR NEXT YEAR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SQUEEZE AS MANY OF YOU THAT WANT TO BE IN HERE IN.

>> CLOSE RANKS.

>> CLOSE RANKS.

>> JUST DON'T BLOCK FOR PROCLAMATION, THAT'S ALL.

[LAUGHTER].

>> RIGHT THERE. RIGHT IN FRONT.

>> EVERYBODY SMILE.

[BACKGROUND].

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE].

>> THANKS MATT. [BACKGROUND].

>> HEY JACK GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN OUR CITY.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO DO PROCLAMATIONS LIKE THAT BECAUSE

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IT HELPS RECOGNIZE PEOPLE FOR GOOD THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

[4.2 Citizens' Comments.]

WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM 4.2, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THIS IS CITIZENS OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE CURRENT AGENDA AND NOT SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AND TYPICALLY, WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, JUST COME TO THE PODIUM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I DO HAVE SOME CARDS AND I'LL CALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT.

BUT IF YOU DID NOT SUBMIT A CARD, THEN YOU WOULD JUST COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL OFF THE FIRST-PERSON, AND JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THERE IS A THREE-MINUTE LIMIT WHICH WE DO MONITOR.

THE FIRST-PERSON IS FAHEEM KHAN, 400 CHISHOLM PLACE, SUITE 310.

DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? I'M SORRY. YOU'RE ACTUALLY HERE FOR 6.2.

I THINK I SOMEHOW GOT IN THERE.

>> WAIT, THOSE ARE ALL 6.2 [BACKGROUND]

>> WERE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 6.2?

>> ITEM 6.2.

>> I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP LATER.

>> OKAY. THANKS.

>> I THINK I JUST GOT YOUR CARD IN THE WRONG STACK.

THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE IS VICTORIA SUBLETTE, 1227 PALO DURO ALLEN.

>> HERE WE HAVE THE LAST ONE 6.3?

>> YES.[NOISE]

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MR. ELLWANGER, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

YOU SEEN ME BEFORE. YOU KNOW, NORMALLY, MY REMARKS ARE WRITTEN.

TONIGHT YOU GET IT FROM THE HEART.

LAST YEAR DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, MR. ELLWANGER SAID SOMETHING THAT HAS REALLY STAYED WITH ME AND THAT IS THAT OUR BUDGET AS THE CITY OF ALLEN IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

I TOOK A LOOK AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT TALKS ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT MAKES US THE PREMIER PLACE TO LIVE IN DFW.

YOU BREAK THAT DOWN INTO THE MISSION AND WE HAVE PROVIDING BEST-IN-CLASS MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

ALSO TALKS ABOUT PLANNING AND INVESTING IN ALLEN'S FUTURE.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE FIND OURSELVES WRANGLING OVER A PENNY ON THE RIGHT OR A CERTAIN INTERSECTION OR HOW MANY BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY BECAUSE WE HAVE A MUCH MORE FUNDAMENTAL DISCONNECT THAN THAT.

I NO LONGER BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE IN ALLEN SHARES THIS SAME VISION AND MISSION WHICH HAS BEEN ARTICULATED.

IT'S VERY EVIDENT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO MEETINGS AND CONVERSATIONS IN-PERSON AND ONLINE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BEST-IN-CLASS, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PREMIER.

WE'RE SAYING ALLEN IS GREAT, AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.

CAN WE MAINTAIN RATHER THAN ENHANCE? DO WE REALLY NEED THIS PLANNED EXTENSION ON THE TRAILS? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETAILS THAT ARE DIVIDING US BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF OUR DIFFERENCES.

I THINK THE LAST TIME THE CITY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN A BROAD SENSE WAS THE 2016 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS SIX YEARS AGO.

IN THIS TIME WHEN SITUATIONS HAVE CHANGED, AND AS LONG AS THERE ARE THREE VOTES ON THE COUNCIL UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE ON NO NEW REVENUE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A BROAD-BASED INCLUDE AS MANY ALLEN CITIZENS AS WE CAN IN A REVISIONING TO SEE DO WE STILL WANT TO BE THE PREMIER PLACE IN ALLEN TO LIVE IN DFW? DO WE STILL WANT BEST-IN-CLASS AMENITIES AND SERVICES? CERTAINLY, I DO.

BUT I'VE BEEN INVESTING IN THIS CITY FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS.

OTHERS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS.

BUT CERTAINLY, I THINK IF WE FAIL TO COME TOGETHER AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL OF OUR VISION AND WHAT WE THINK ALLEN SHOULD BE, THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DIVIDE OURSELVES OVER ISSUES THAT DON'T ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VICTORIA. NEXT, I HAVE HERMANN PATEL.

>> I'M GOING TO SKIP THIS.

>> NEXT, AFTER THAT, I HAVE SUNEIL MODI, 968 SHATTUCK PARK LANE, ALLEN, 75013.

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>> HELLO EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING.

I AM A RESIDENT OF ALLEN FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY INVITE EVERYONE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO AN EVENT THAT IS HOSTED BY BAPS CHARITIES WITH SUSAN G. KOMEN AS OUR BENEFICIARY THIS YEAR.

BAPS CHARITIES' ANNUAL IN THE JOY OF OTHERS WALK/RUN WILL BE HELD AT THE SOUND OF CYPRUS WATERS IN CABELL, TEXAS, AT 8 AM ON JUNE 4TH.

SEVERAL COMMUNITY BUSINESS AND POLITICAL LEADERS WILL BE ATTENDING THIS EVENT.

ANNUAL WALK/RUN EVENTS ARE HOSTED BY BAPS CHARITIES ACROSS 70 CITIES IN NORTH AMERICA.

IT IS A FAMILY EVENT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.

FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE VISIT WWW.BAPSCHARITIES.ORG, SELECT US, AND THEN DALLAS AS YOUR LOCATION.

YOU MAY PREREGISTER ONLINE IF YOU PREFER OR VISIT ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ON THE DAY OF THE WALK, AND WE CAN ASSIST.

ONCE AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, SUNIL.

NEXT, I HAVE SRINI [INAUDIBLE], 1041 HOT SPRINGS DRIVE, ALLEN, 75013.

>> HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE WHOLE COUNCIL FOR SUCCESSFULLY CONDUCTING THE ISLAND CITY COUNCIL AND THE [INAUDIBLE] ELECTIONS FOR 2022.

I KNOW THAT ORGANIZING ELECTIONS TAKES A LOT OF TIME TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT FROM THE CITY STAFF.

A BIG THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF FOR DOING THIS.

NOW TO THE 3,452 ALLEN RESIDENTS WHO VOTED FOR ME, WHO PLACED THEIR TRUST IN ME AND VOTED FOR ME, BELIEVED IN MY PRIORITIES, BELIEVED IN MY VALUES AND THE IDEALS THAT I REPRESENT.

MY HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO YOU, AND I SHALL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL.

I INTEND TO SERVE YOU 100 PERCENT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES BY BEING THE EYES-ON STEWARD FOR THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR, SUPPORTING SMART INVESTMENTS IN PARKS AND TRAILS, AND BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

ONCE AGAIN, ME AND THE 3,452 ALLEN RESIDENTS THAT WROTE IT FOR ME THANK THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK THE CITY STAFF, AND THE MAYOR FOR SUCCESSFULLY CONDUCTING THE 2022 MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SRINI. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? IF NOT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA,

[5. Consent Agenda.]

WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS INTENDED TO BE THINGS THAT ARE CONTROVERSIAL OR ROUTINE IN NATURE.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CITY SECRETARY, SHELLEY GEORGE, READ THESE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

>> FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE REFER TO THE POSTED AGENDA FOR FULL DETAILS.

AGENDA ITEM 5.1, APPROVE MINUTES TO THE MAY 10TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

AGENDA ITEM 5.2, APPROVE MINUTES OF THE MAY 16TH SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO CONDUCT THE CANVASS OF THE ELECTION.

AGENDA ITEM 5.3, ADOPT RESOLUTION AUTHORITY 914- 5- 22 OR AUTHORIZING CONTRACT AMENDMENTS TO THE IAE WITH COLLIN COUNTY REGARDING THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AGENDA ITEM 5.4, AWARD BID AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH HQS CONSTRUCTION FOR THE 2022 STREETS AND ALLEYS REHABILITATION PROJECT FOR $1,932,009.

AGENDA ITEM 5.2, AWARD BID AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH FLOW-LINE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE SLOAN CREEK WATERLINE PROJECT FOR $4,648,570.

AGENDA ITEM 5.6, ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF SHARON LAKES AND DECLARE A VACANCY IN PLACE NUMBER 2 ON THE CVB ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> THANK YOU. SHELLEY. COUNCIL, DOES ANYONE WISH TO REMOVE ANY ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

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>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND.

>> DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT NOW.

[BACKGROUND] CHANGE OF PLAN [LAUGHTER] ELECTRONIC DIFFICULTIES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

[6.1 Adopt a Resolution establishing rates and fees for commercial and residential solid waste, recycling and household hazardous waste services.]

NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6.1 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING RATES AND FEES FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE RECYCLING AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE SERVICES.

WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, STEVE MASSEY. GOOD EVENING, STEVE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR FULK.

THIS IS MY 21ST CONSECUTIVE YEAR COMING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY TO TALK ABOUT RATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR WASTE SERVICES IN THE CITY OF ALLEN.

ONE YEAR IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN 0.6 PERCENT AND THE HIGHEST RATE WE'VE EVER FACED AS AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS 4.4 PERCENT INCREASE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE RATE OF INFLATION AND THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX HAS MADE THIS PARTICULAR YEAR MORE COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT FOR US TO CONSIDER AN APPROPRIATE CONSUMER PRICE INCREASE FOR CWD.

I'M SURE YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT GREG REIMER, PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL IS WITH US, AND ROBERT MEDIGOVICH, THE MUNICIPAL COORDINATOR IS ALSO WITH US.

THEY'RE AVAILABLE AS A RESOURCE BUT DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

BUT OF COURSE, THEY HAVE THE PRESENTATION THAT JASON REDMOND GAVE TWO WEEKS AGO TO THE COUNCIL.

RATES AND FEES. OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH CWD RUNS THROUGH MAY OF 2024.

OUR LAST RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE, MEANING THE COST WE CHARGE THE CITIZENS OF ALLEN WENT UP IN JUNE 2010.

THERE'S BEEN AND THERE WILL BE NO RATE INCREASES PROPOSED IN THE RATE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THE LAST COMMERCIAL RATE INCREASE WAS 3.2 PERCENT OF JUNE 1ST LAST YEAR.

THE ENTERPRISE FUND REMAINS IN GOOD SHAPE WITH A GOOD FUND BALANCE AND A HEALTHY DAYS OF RESERVE.

THE CURRENT CWD CONTRACT ALLOWS FOR FIVE PERCENT CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ADJUSTMENT ANNUALLY.

IN 21 YEARS IT'S NEVER EXCEEDED THAT FIVE PERCENT LEVEL.

THE CONTRACT ALSO ALLOWS FOR A HIGHER INCREASE DUE TO UNFORESEEABLE COST IMPACTS AND THOSE UNFORESEEABLE COST IMPACTS HAPPENED IN THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR CPI FOR DALLAS-FORT WORTH-ARLINGTON WENT UP NINE PERCENT, WHICH IS FOUR PERCENT ABOVE WHAT THEY COULD TYPICALLY ASK FOR.

THEY DID, AS A PROVISION OF THE CONTRACT, THEY SENT A LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR A HIGH RATE ADJUSTMENT, AND THEY DID SUBMIT A LETTER AND GAVE A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL IN WORKSHOP TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEY DISCUSSED THEIR DESIRE TO GET A FULL NINE PERCENT RATE INCREASE RATHER THAN THE CAP AT THE FIVE PERCENT LIMIT.

NOW, THIS IS A CHART THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY PAYS COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL, NOT WHAT RESIDENTS PAY THE CITY.

DON'T GET CONFUSED BY WHAT'S ON IT.

WE START ON THE LEFT WITH THE TRASH COST.

THAT'S ONE TRASH CART, ONE RECYCLE CART.

THE CITY NOW PAYS CWD 8.58, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE THREE COLUMNS WHAT WE WOULD PAY THEM AT FIVE, SEVEN, OR NINE PERCENT CPI.

THE SECOND LINE IS FOR SECOND TRASH CART AND THE THIRD LINE IS FOR SECOND RECYCLED CART.

IF WE STUCK WITH A FIVE PERCENT INCREASE AND LIMITED CWD TO THAT, OUR COST TO THE FUND OF THE NEXT YEAR WOULD GO UP $173,880.

USUALLY, WHEN I'M DOING THIS, THAT COST IS ABOUT $60,000.

A SEVEN PERCENT CPI WOULD TAKE THE COST OF THE CITY PAYING CWD UP $242,000 AND NINE PERCENT $311,000.

I SHOW THE RATES OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT SOLID WASTES FAMILY, THE FIVE-MEMBER CITIES BECAUSE DISPOSAL COST PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN WHAT THE COST FOR THE WASTE SERVICES IS AND ALL OF US PAY THE SAME COST FOR WASTE DISPOSAL FROM MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AMONG THE MEMBER CITIES RIGHT NOW, WE'RE THE LOWEST OF ALL THE MEMBER CITIES IN OUR CHARGES TO CUSTOMERS.

>> SOME OF THOSE CITIES THEY PROVIDE THEIR OWN TRASH SERVICES; IS THAT CORRECT?

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>> THIS IS A DIFFICULT ITEM TO COMPARE.

RICHARDSON WHO'S THE HIGHEST STILL DOES REAR LOAD TWICE A WEEK AND THAT IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADERS ONCE A WEEK.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO COMPARE, BUT THESE ARE THE ACTUAL RATES, AND PROBABLY COMPARING DATA AVERAGE IS THE MOST REASONABLE THING TO DO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT HEALTHY, THE FUN WOULD BE THROUGH THE END OF FY21.

WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE NEED FOR A RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE DURING THE UPCOMING FY23 BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH TAKES PLACE IN AUGUST WITHIN THE CITY THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE A SENIOR DISCOUNT PROGRAM FOR SENIORS OVER 65.

STARTED IN 2016, THAT'S A 20 PERCENT DISCOUNT ON WASTE SERVICES AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.

3,075 SENIORS ARE NOW IN THE PROGRAM, THAT'S UP 150 FROM A YEAR AGO.

THE ANNUAL COST SAVINGS PER YEAR IS $115,000 AT THIS POINT.

COMMERCIAL. CWD BILLS COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, AND THEY SEND TO THE CITY THE DISPOSAL PORTION, THE COST FOR THE NORTH TEXAS LANDFILL COMES BACK TO THE SOLID WASTE FUND.

WE ESSENTIALLY TAKE THAT MONEY AND TRANSFER IT TO NORTH TEXAS AS PART OF OUR BILL FROM THE WATER DISTRICT FOR WASTE SERVICES ANNUALLY.

THE CWD CONTRACT FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICES HAS THE SAME CPI PROVISIONS; FIVE PERCENT LIMIT UNLESS YOU REQUEST MORE IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK AT TYPICAL COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS.

MOST OF THE RESOLUTION IS ALL THESE DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU PICK THEM UP, AND IT'S REALLY CONFUSING.

I PICKED THE FOUR MOST POPULOUS CONTAINERS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

THE FIRST ONE IS A FOUR CUBIC YARD FRONT-LOAD CONTAINER ON THE TOP-LEFT.

IT'S ONE-HALF THE SIZE OF AN EIGHT CUBIC YARD FRONT-LOAD CONTAINER ON THE TOP-RIGHT.

THIS FRONT-LOAD MAY BE IN FRONT OF A SMALL BUSINESS ON THE LEFT AND A EIGHT-YARD IS TYPICAL AT RESTAURANTS AND IS THE MOST POPULOUS TYPE CONTAINER IN THE CITY.

OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE, OVER HALF OF THEM ARE EIGHT CUBIC YARD FRONT LOADS.

THE ABBREVIATIONS UNDER CWD COMMERCIAL CHARGE ARE A FOUR CUBIC YARD CONTAINER PICKED UP TWICE A WEEK NOW COST $200.

WITH A FIVE PERCENT INCREASE, IT'S $210, AND SO ON THROUGH SEVEN AND NINE PERCENT.

FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED MORE TRASH PICKUP BUT STILL HAVE A FOUR CUBIC YARD, A FIVE TIMES A WEEK PICK UP IS $442, AND YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT OF THE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES OF INCREASE.

AN EIGHT-YARD TWICE A WEEK STARTS AT $289 NOW, AND YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT AS YOU GO ACROSS THE RATE INCREASE.

EIGHT CUBIC YARD FIVE TIMES A WEEK STARTS AT $633, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT FIVE, SEVEN, AND NINE INCREASE DOES TO THAT.

I HAVE TWO MORE COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS TO SHOW YOU.

THE 35-YARD ROLL-OFF IS WHAT YOU SEE BEHIND MOST GROCERY STORES, MAYBE WALMART AND BIGGER BIG BOX STORES.

IT'S A ROLL-OFF COMPACTOR AND CWD TAKES THESE TO THE TRANSFER STATION.

THE ONE ON THE TOP-RIGHT IS A 30-YARD OPEN-TOP ROLL-OFF CONTAINER.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE IN IT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAUL THIS TO THE LANDFILL IN MELISSA.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RATE AND SAY, THAT'S 35, THIS IS 30, WHY DOES THE 30 COST MORE FOR HAUL? IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING ON A 40-MILE ROUND TRIP, AND SOMETIMES THEY SIT IN LINE AT THE LANDFILL FOR AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF WAITING TO GET TO THE FACE OF THE LANDFILL TO UNLOAD THEM.

THE 35-YARD ROLL-OFF GOES TO THE SAME PLACE AS RESIDENTIAL TRASH TO THE TRANSFER STATION AT CASTOR AND RIDGEVIEW.

THE 35-YARD COMPACTOR, THE TOP-LEFT ONE, CURRENTLY $481 PER HAUL, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW THE RATES INCREASE THE COSTS OF POSSIBLE RATE INCREASES, AND A 30-YARD OPEN-TOP CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS PERHAPS THE MOST EXPENSIVE TYPE CONTAINER THAT WE HAVE IN OUR RATE SCHEDULE AND NOW STARTS AT $535.

THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW 5, 7, AND 9 TAKE THAT RATE UP.

CONSUMER PRICE INDEX IS A GOOD GAUGE FOR WHAT WE MIGHT OWE A SERVICE PROVIDER BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.

US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS PUT THIS TOGETHER.

WE DEFINE THE USE OF THE CPI AND INCLUDED A FIVE PERCENT LIMIT FOR A REASON WHEN THIS CONTRACT WAS FIRST WRITTEN.

THAT WAS TO AVOID A BIG BLOW-UP AND A BIG HUGE INCREASE IN COST.

CWD HAZARD COSTED MORE.

THE FACT IS IS THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN US

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NUMBERS TO SHOW THEIR COST INCREASES ARE OVER 10 PERCENT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY LEGITIMATE.

THEY WOULD BE TIED TO THE NINE PERCENT CPI AS THE TOP LEVEL THEY COULD GO AT.

WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS AMONGST STAFF MEMBERS AND THE CITY LEADERSHIP AND FELT THAT THE APPROPRIATE AND FAIR THING TO DO WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND A SEVEN PERCENT CPI ADJUSTMENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAY CWD AND THE COMMERCIAL SIDE IS WHAT THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS PAY DIRECTLY TO CWD.

WITH THAT, WE WOULD ENTER INTO DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS OR OPINIONS OR ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE BEARING ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO THIS EVENING.

>> BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THIS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASE COME BUDGET.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE TO DISCUSS A RATE INCREASE FOR RESIDENTIAL NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

>> YES. THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.

THAT'LL BE A BUDGET WORKSHOP ITEM AND YOU'LL HAVE OPTIONS ON WHAT WE DO AND HOW MUCH WE DO AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES THAT WE GET FROM THE INCREASES.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF WE GRANT THIS SEVEN PERCENT AND THEN WE HAVE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FOR ANOTHER INCREASE, IS IT GOING TO BE BASED OFF THE RATE PLUS THE SEVEN PERCENT OR THE RATE WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER NOW?

>> FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, I HAVE PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN AT NINE PERCENT BECAUSE THAT WAS A WORST-CASE SCENARIO.

>> CORRECT.

>> IF YOU APPROVED SEVEN TONIGHT, THE CFO IS GOING TO TELL ME REDO YOUR BUDGET.

THEN WHAT YOU SEE IN AUGUST WILL BE FOR A SEVEN PERCENT RATING.

>> IT'D BE BASED.

>> YES, SIR. I'LL BE DIRECTED TO ADJUST IT TO WHAT YOU ACTUALLY APPROVE, WHETHER IT'S 6, 7, 8, 9, OR WHATEVER YOU MAY DESIRE, CERTAINLY, YOU CAN DO.

>> LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER AND JUST TO BE FAIR, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THEY'VE COME IN HERE AND WE'VE LOWERED RATE NOT ACTUALLY INCREASED IT JUST WITH THE SITUATION IN THE COUNTY IS109 DOLLARS BILL, MY GAS TANK RIGHT NOW.

>> ONE YEAR IT WAS MINUS 0.6, NOTHING HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THIS YEAR WITH INFLATION.

>> CORRECT.

>> PERHAPS ASUNDER OVER HERE IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT CPI.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH SOLID WASTE THIS YEAR AND WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE BULK PICKUP ONCE A MONTH AND THAT INCREASED TO OUR COST ABOUT $240,000 AND I GUESS IT WAS A SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE.

WE'RE GOING UP ANOTHER 30,000.

LAST YEAR OUR FUND BALANCE AND I KNOW YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE RESERVE IN SUCH, OUR FUND BALANCE DECLINED OVER $800,000 I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BULK PICKUP, IS YOU CAN TELL THAT WE'RE THE LOWEST RATE.

WE CHARGE THE LOWEST RATES TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE HAVEN'T RAISED RATES SINCE 2010.

I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING YOU COULD BUY IN THE WORLD THAT YOU WOULD PAY THE SAME PRICE AS YOU PAID IN 2010.

IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT DISCUSSION IN BUDGET WORKSHOP BECAUSE INFLATION IS PREDICTED TO BE EVEN HIGHER IN 2023 AND IN 2022.

I GUESS THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SEVEN PERCENT AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND I'M NOT GOING TO DISCLOSE WHAT I THINK BUT AS FAR AS APPROPRIATE BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH CWD, WE GO WAY BACK.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST CWD, ITS BUSINESSES EVERYWHERE THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND THE LABOR, WORK, AND PAY PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE OR YOUR DRIVERS.

IN SO MANY THINGS WE DO AS A CONSOLE AND AS A CITY, IT'S ABOUT SHARING AND BEING GOOD PARTNERS.

I WILL DEFER TO YOU AND AS TO IS THIS APPROPRIATE? I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GOT SEVEN PERCENT.

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN AND THAT'S FINE.

IS IT A RATE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE USED TO AND EVERYBODY AND BOTH PARTIES ARE GOING TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT? THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE'VE BEEN THERE AND NOT TO ANY CRITICISM IF YOU-ALL EVERYBODY'S GONE THROUGH SOME EBBS AND FLOWS IN THEIR BUSINESS BUT WE'VE HAD THESE CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE, WE ALL GET THE EMAILS RIGHT GUYS, OUR PEOPLE MAD BECAUSE THEIR TRASH DIDN'T GET PICKED UP.

I JUST EXPLAINED TO YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHERE SEVEN PERCENT CAME FROM,

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BUT I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED AS GOOD PARTNERS WITH CWD IN THE CITY.

THAT'S ALL RELATES WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

>> BEN.

>> YES. A FEW SLIDES BACK YOU HAVE A PHRASE THAT TALKS ABOUT UNFORESEEABLE CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH KICK UP THE FIVE PERCENT FOR CPI.

I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT TWO DATA POINTS EQUAL TO TREND.

AT WHAT POINT DID THEY DECIPHER THE TREND WAS HAPPENING TOWARDS INCREASED COSTS.

PERHAPS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE OF CWD TO SAY, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THEY'VE DONE TO CREATE EFFICIENCIES, CONTAIN COSTS, TRY TO DECREASE THEIR COSTS SO THAT IT DIDN'T KICK UP PACIFY PERCENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT.

>> I'M SURE MR. REAGAN WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME UP WITH YOU.

I KNOW THAT THE INITIATION OF THAT WAS WITH THE VIRUS IN 2020 AND THEY WERE LOSING DRIVERS LIKE CRAZY AND HAD TO UP WAGES.

OVER THE TIME AS THEY LOST PEOPLE, THEY UP WAGES PAY AND BENEFITS WENT UP.

WE ALSO IN LAST FALL AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE HERE, REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT TO BEAR SOME COMPLAINTS ON CWD FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THEY DOUBLED THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF.

WE HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON WHO I'VE GOT TO SAY, I HOPE HE NEVER LEAVES CWD AND I HOPE HE NEVER STOP SERVING THE CITY OF ALLEN.

I'VE TOLD A FEW OF YOU THE STORY THAT IS MOST COMPELLING FOR ME THAT I HEAR FROM DONNA GILES OUR WASTE SERVICES MANAGER.

THREE TIMES A DAY THEY GET INFORMATION FROM CWD ON PROBLEM RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PICKUPS.

THE ONE THAT'S MOST MEMORABLE TO ME WAS WHEN A DRIVER WENT OUT TO A SCHOOL TO PICK UP AN EIGHT-YARD FRONT-LOAD THAT HAD CLOSED GATES IN FRONT OF IT LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

WHEN HE GOT THERE, THE WELD ON ONE OF THE GATES HAD FALLEN OFF AND THE GATE WAS STUCK TO THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BE MOVED.

THAT WAS ABOUT 9:00 AM.

ABOUT 9:30, DONNA GILES GOT AN EMAIL FROM CUSTOMER SERVICE THERE'S A PROBLEM AT A CERTAIN SCHOOL.

DONNA CALLED OPERATIONS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BY 10:30, THEY CALLED AND SAID THEY'D TAKEN THE GATE OFF, AND BY 11:30 THEY MADE THE PICKUP.

THE SAME THING HAPPENS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS NOW.

IT IS WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH THEM AND I'M NOT SAYING IT BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT FOR 21 YEARS.

I'M THE GUY WROTE THOSE NASTY LETTERS TO MR. REIMER A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO BUT THEIR RESPONSE TO THOSE LETTERS HAS BEEN EXCELLENT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

I COULD PROBABLY HAVE DONE A GILES COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU MANY MORE EXAMPLES OF THE SUCCESSES WE'RE HAVING WITH THEM NOW.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THAT FROM BIG TRASH COMPANY XYZ THAT DOES MCKINNEY AND FRISCO.

YOU CALL THEM IT'S LIKE CALLING THE POST OFFICE.

YOU CALL THE POSTMASTER IN ALLEN, YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY IN WASHINGTON NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING.

THAT'S THE WAY THE BIG WASTE SERVICES COMPANIES ARE.

IF I CALL GREG KRAMER, HE'LL CALL ME IF HE'S ON VACATION IN CHINA.

HE'LL ANSWER ME RIGHT AWAY.

WE HAVE THE ASSISTANCE AND THE HELP OF THE BOSS OF THE COMPANY AT OUR BECK AND CALL.

IT'S A VERY UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP.

I ASSURE YOU IT'S ABSOLUTELY PROFESSIONAL AND THEY WERE VERY HARD TO SUSTAIN IT BUT MAYBE I ANSWERED MR. REAGAN'S QUESTION.

>> MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF ALLEN, MY NAME IS GREG KRAMER.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL.

IT'S BEEN A VERY UNUSUAL TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

SOME BUSINESSES HAVE DONE VERY WELL IN THE PANDEMIC.

I WAS JUST WITH A CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OF THE LEGAL CORPORATION.

THEIR REVENUES HAVE GONE UP 50 PERCENT PER YEAR SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

A WONDERFUL STORY OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEIR COMPANY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THE TRASH GUYS ON THE OTHER HAND, STARTING MARCH OF 20 WHEN ALL OF OUR KIDS CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES CLOSED, AND WE QUIT GOING OUT TO EAT, AND WE QUIT SHOPPING, AND ALL WE DID WAS HONEY DO'S AND PUT TRASH ON THE CURB.

OUR VOLUMES WENT UP 15 PERCENT, AND OUR LIVES REVOLVE IN TRASH BUSINESS AROUND ONE TON OF TRASH.

ONE TON TRASH MEANS MORE DRIVERS, MORE TRUCKS, MORE LABOR, MORE FUEL, MORE INSURANCE, MORE EVERYTHING.

JUST WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING THROUGH THAT, WE HAD THAT FEBRUARY FREEZE, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED A NATIONAL DISASTER, THAT THREW ANOTHER 34 PERCENT OUT ON THE CURB.

THEN WE RUN INTO THE LABOR SHORTAGE.

WE DID A DRIVER HELPER WAGE INCREASE OF

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20 PERCENT JUST TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP LEAVING THE COMPANY AND TRY TO GET SOME TO COME ON BOARD.

WE DOUBLED OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT FROM 8-16 PEOPLE AND GAVE THEM A 25 PERCENT RAISE SO WE COULD ANSWER THE PHONES BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE LEAVING AND GOING.

JUST WHEN WE THINK IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. NOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE? WE'VE GOT THIS OUTRAGEOUS INFLATION THING, STUFF THAT WE JUST WEREN'T PREDICTING A YEAR AGO WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, MUCH LIKE THE OTHER THINGS I'VE MENTIONED.

WE CAME UP AND MET WITH STAFF.

I THINK ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO, THE DATE DOESN'T COME TO ME, BUT WE CAME WITH TWO CASES OF CONFIDENTIAL FILES, AND WE WERE WILLING TO SHOW THEM ANYTHING ABOUT OUR COMPANY THEY WANTED TO SEE.

BUT OUR MISSION WAS TO SHOW THEM BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT OUR COSTS IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS HAVE GONE UP 12.3 PERCENT.

NOT 10, NOT NINE, NOT FIVE, 12.3 PERCENT.

I THINK WE LEFT THE MEETING MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, THAT THEY BELIEVED IT IS LEGITIMATE AND TRUE THESE GUY'S COSTS HAVE GONE UP 12.3 PERCENT.

I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE COST THAT HAS GONE DOWN.

I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE HAVING OUR OVERTIME IS UP, OUR EQUIPMENT COST OUTRAGEOUS OF THE COST OF STEEL IS OUTRAGEOUSLY GONE UP.

OUR TAXES HAVE GONE UP A LITTLE BIT, I SUPPOSE.

BUT IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT.

WE THOUGHT ASKING FOR THE NINE PERCENT CPI WAS A COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS BASED ON THE CPI.

THE CPI IS LEGITIMATELY A NINE PERCENT.

WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR 12.3, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.

WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR THAT TONIGHT.

I DON'T THINK IT IS UNREASONABLE.

WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.

SOMEONE ASKED ME EARLIER, GREG, IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT SERVICE? I WANT TO TELL YOU NO, IT NEVER WILL BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE BEST SERVICE THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND WE'LL FIGHT TO THE VERY LAST MINUTE TO DO THAT.

BUT IN THE REAL-WORLD, IF YOU'RE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF CWD AND THE OWNERS OF CWD, AND OUR COSTS GO UP [NOISE] IN A VACUUM 12.3 PERCENT YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND OUR REVENUES ARE GOING UP FIVE PERCENT OR SEVEN PERCENT OR MAYBE NINE.

I MEAN, EVENTUALLY COSTS ARE GOING TO EQUAL REVENUE, EXCEED REVENUE AND THEN WHEN YOU LOSE MONEY, WHAT HAPPENS? WHEN YOU START LOSING MONEY, YOU DO ONE OF TWO THINGS; YOU EITHER GO OUT OF BUSINESS, OR YOU CUT COSTS.

GENERALLY WHAT A FIGHTER DOES IS CUT COSTS.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION.

WE CERTAINLY TRY NOT TO BE IN THAT POSITION, BUT WE ARE A COMPANY THAT HAS TO MAKE A PROFIT.

SERVICE IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED IN ALLEN NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH, BUT IN A VACUUM, I SUPPOSE IF THIS HAPPENS YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND IT REALLY SCARES ME WHEN COUNCILMAN SAYS THAT IT'S EXPECTED TO BE EVEN HIGHER NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS SHOCKING TO ALL OF OUR CITY CONTRACTS.

I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOUR PERCENT OR LESS FOR 20 YEARS.

NOW WE'RE RUNNING AROUND TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT 10 AND 12 PERCENT.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S NOT MAKING MY JOB EASIER.

I'D RATHER BE THREE, AND YOU'RE HAPPY AND SLAM THE GAVEL, AND WE ALL GO HOME.

BUT THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY IT IS.

THAT'S NOT THE CARDS THAT ARE BEING DEALT AT. I WON'T KEEP GOING.

I'LL ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE.

I'M GLAD TO BE HERE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP.

>> NOW TO THE SPIRIT OF BEN'S QUESTION ON EFFICIENCIES, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO CAPITALIZE OR LEVERAGE ANY TYPE OF EFFICIENCIES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? OR IS IT JUST A COSPLAY ALONE?

>> I REALLY CAN'T THINK OF A ONE.

OUR TOWNS HAVE GROWN.

WE'VE LITERALLY TURNED DOWN CITY CONTRACTS OVER THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS BECAUSE OF LABOR SHORTAGE AND PROBLEMS LIKE THAT.

WE'VE NOT BEEN TRYING TO GROW THE COMPANY OTHER THAN INTERNAL GROWTH, WHICH JUST HAPPENS WITH TOWNS.

BUT I REALLY, OTHER THAN THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCY IN A TOWN GROWING WITH HOMES NEXT EXISTING HOMES, I CAN'T THINK OF A LOT, NO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> THANK YOU, GREG.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STEVE? IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL TURN THE MATTER OVER TO THE COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE?

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>> YEAH. I'LL SAY IT'D BE TRANSPARENT ON WHERE MY MIND IS ON THIS.

WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO US, I IMMEDIATELY WENT BACK TO GO MY BUSINESS ROUTES AND A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT AND INITIALLY I WAS AT, NOW YOU WANT TO GO FIVE PERCENT, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT GO FIVE PERCENT.

I HAVE A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF THE PARTNERSHIP ON HOW MEANINGFUL A SOLID PARTNERSHIP IS BETWEEN, IN MY WORLD BUSINESS OF BUSINESS.

VERY SIMILAR. THE HISTORIC PARTNERSHIP, AND STEVE YOU'RE SUPPORTING THAT.

THAT PARTNERSHIP COMES FROM YOU, STEVE.

THAT IS ACKNOWLEDGED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE LOWEST RATES TO OUR CUSTOMERS RIGHT NOW.

THAT PLAYS A POSITIVE FACTOR.

TO GET TO THE SEVEN PERCENT, IT TAKES ME TO MY LIMIT.

I THINK WE'RE BEING EXTREMELY GENEROUS IN MY MIND ABOUT AS GENEROUS AS I'M WILLING TO BE.

BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR ON BOTH SIDES. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

>> THANK YOU DAREN. I HAVE DAVE NEXT.

>> I'LL GO. WHAT DAREN IS SAYING, I MEAN, A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT, BUT THESE ARE UNPRECEDENTED TIMES NO DOUBT.

WE DO HAVE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN'T.

THE CITIZENS ARE DEPENDENT ON US NOT TO INFLATE THEIR COSTS AS WELL, WHICH JUST WOULD LEAD TO.

I THINK SEVEN IS A GOOD COMPROMISE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN OVERBEARING AND I THINK IT'S REALLY DECENT.

>> CARL.

>> YEAH, ECHO A LOT OF THE SAME COMMENTS.

I WORK IN A BUSINESS WORLD, COSTS ARE EVERYTHING, I UNDERSTAND.

WE TRY TO MINIMIZE THE COST TO OUR CITIZEN BASE, BUT THE COST IS GOING UP ALL AROUND US.

TO HONOR THAT PARTNERSHIP, WE'VE GOT TO SHARE IN SOME OF THAT COST INCREASE.

WHILE NOBODY LIKES TO SEE COSTS GO UP, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE LEVEL OF OUR SERVICES GO DOWN.

WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND I CAN SUPPORT THE SEVEN PERCENT.

>> THANK YOU CARL. ANYONE FROM THIS SIDE? DAVE?

>> I'M PREPARED TO SUPPORT THE SEVEN PERCENT.

THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT COSTS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE HAVE GONE UP.

MY NEW CLIENTS ARE ABOUT TO FIND OUT THAT I'M GOING UP 13 PERCENT IN MY RATE.

IT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST.

>> ANYONE ELSE FROM THIS SIDE?

>> IT'S A PRETTY TOUGH SITUATION.

WE DO HAVE A CAP IN THE CONTRACT FOR A REASON TO PROTECT US SO THAT WE DON'T END UP HAVING EXCESSIVE COST INCREASE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

BUT AT LEAST HAVING THAT CAP GIVES US THE OPTION TO CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT CWD, MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE'RE THEIR FIRST BIG CUSTOMER IN THE METROPLEX.

WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY AND IT HAS BEEN AN EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIP.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S JUSTIFICATION ON THE TABLE FOR OVER 12 PERCENT.

BUT I THINK EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO DEAL WITH COST INCREASES OF OVER 12 PERCENT AT THEIR OWN PLACE OF WORK, OR AT HOME AND DEALING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR TAXPAYERS AND TRY TO COMPROMISE THE BEST WE CAN.

BUT IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO TRY TO ABSORB ALL OF THE COST INCREASE THAT CWD HAS.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY'VE COME BACK WITH WHAT THEY FEEL IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.

I'M STRUGGLING A LOT WITH THIS BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT, BUT I'M OKAY WITH THE COMPROMISE BEING SEVEN PERCENT AS PROPOSED.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, THEN I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.

I DO HAVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER.

WELL, I'LL LET SHELLY GIVE YOU THE RESOLUTION NUMBER.

>> RESOLUTION NUMBER 3915-5-22R.

>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 3915-5-22R.

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>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

>> OR WE COULD.

>> NO.

>> TELL YOU WHAT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT.

>> THERE WE GO.

>> GOOD.

>> GOOD.

>> OH, I PUT THE WRONG BUTTON. I DID.

>> YOU DID MR. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DID.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE WILL NOTE THAT HE MADE A MISTAKE.

WE WILL NOTE THAT IT'S CORRECTED IT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WHICH DOES CONSIST OF A 7 PERCENT CPI INCREASE.

I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER, GREG, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WE COULD DO TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU.

[6.2 Conduct a public hearing and adopt an Ordinance for a Specific Use Permit for Single-Family Attached use for property generally located at the northeast corner of Boyd Drive and Butler Drive.]

>> MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, 6.2, WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USE FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BOYD DRIVE AND BUTLER DRIVE.

WE HAVE PLANNING MANAGER, HAYLEY ANGEL, WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, HAYLEY.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST ONCE.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TOWN HOME USE AT 100 WEST BOYD.

THE PROPERTY IS ROUGHLY IDENTIFIED BY THE YELLOW STAR AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS NORTH OF MCDERMOTT DRIVE AND EAST OF US HIGHWAY 75.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.

IT IS LOCATED IN A CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THE IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THE ALLEN PUBLIC LIBRARY OFF OF ALLEN DRIVE.

OVER TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THERE'S THE DART RIGHT OF WAY.

OUR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT DOESN'T NORMALLY COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

MOST OF THE TIME PROPERTIES IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT DO DEVELOP BY RAIL AND THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO AN APPOINTED BOARD, THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.

ANY SITE PLAN OR BUILDING PERMIT THAT OCCURS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT DOES GO BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR REVIEW, NOT JUST OF ARCHITECTURAL MATTERS BUT ALSO WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE BACK OF THE CURB AND TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SIDEWALK, PEDESTRIAN ATMOSPHERE.

THAT IS TO SAY THIS PROPERTY HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL APPROVALS BEFORE IT'S LANDED ON YOUR DESK TONIGHT.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR 16 TOWN HOME UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED ON THIS ENTIRE BLOCK AT THE CORNER OF BOYD AND BUTLER DRIVE.

A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY. BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2021, IT DID GO BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND RECEIVED AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

THERE WERE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE SITE THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN BUT PRIMARILY THE CONDITIONS WERE PERTAINING TO THE ELEVATIONS.

I'LL DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT BACK IN APRIL OF 2022, JUST LAST MONTH, THEY DID RECEIVE AN APPROVAL FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT IS STILL AN SUP SO IT GOES THROUGH A STAFF REVIEW PROCESS AND WAS SUBJECT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S REVIEW.

THERE WAS SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE ENGINEERING DONE ON THIS SITE AS WELL.

AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH WHERE COATS DRIVE IS, THERE IS SOME EXISTING DRAINAGE WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP THE SITE.

WITH ALL OF THAT BACKGROUND OF WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED WE CAN JUMP INTO THE SITE AT HAND.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> SURE.

>> THE BLUE LINE, IS THAT THE START OF THE DART RIGHT OF WAY?

>> YES, IT IS.

THESE ARE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT LINES TO THE PROPERTY LENGTH.

>> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

>> [NOISE] BEING IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THERE IS THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE CONDUCTING THEIR OVERALL VISIONING PLAN.

WHILE THAT IS GOING ON, TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS SUBJECT TO THE EXISTING POLICIES AND ADOPTED ZONING DISTRICT.

WHEN STAFF RECEIVED THE APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WE STARTED WITH OUR FIRST ADOPTED POLICY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BACK IN 2014, THIS WAS ADOPTED AND THE CBD WAS IDENTIFIED AS A GROWTH AREA.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN THE CORE DOWNTOWN AREA.

WHILE WE DO HAVE THIS AND SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE OVERALL CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, IT DIDN'T OUTLINE SPECIFIC USES AND SPECIFIC AREAS.

JUST GENERALLY [NOISE] THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DID NOTE THAT THE COMMERCIAL AREA SHOULD SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE SUP SITE PLAN IS HERE BEFORE YOU.

AGAIN, THESE ARE INDIVIDUALLY PLOTTED TOWN HOME LOTS AND THERE ARE 16 [NOISE] OF THEM.

WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GO THROUGH AND I'LL HELP ORIENT JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THE FIRST SET OF UNITS ARE GOING TO BE FACING BUTLER DRIVE.

BUTLER DRIVE WILL BE REPLACED WITH CONCRETE, SO THAT WILL BE UPGRADED.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PARALLEL PARKING FOR GUEST SPACES, BUMP OUTS FOR STREET TREES, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS AND FOR THOSE FRONT DOORS TO OPEN OUT ONTO.

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THE FRONT YARD SETBACK HERE IS APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET.

THE GARAGES HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A CENTRAL ALLEY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE BLOCK AND SO ALL OF THE GARAGES ARE GOING TO BE LOADED FROM THE HOMES.

ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THE EAST SIDE, THESE TOWN HOMES WILL FACE THE DART RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT DOES HAVE A MAXIMUM SETBACK OF 10 FEET WHICH IS ATYPICAL.

NORMALLY WE HAVE A MINIMUM.

IN THIS CASE THE [NOISE] CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PUSH YOUR BUILDINGS TO THE STREET.

THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE APPROVED AN INCREASE IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK ALONG THIS ROW OF TOWN HOMES.

KNOWING IT'S FACING THE DART RIGHT OF WAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME GRADING IN THIS AREA THAT REQUIRES OR RETAINING WALL BE APPROVED AND INCREASED TO 20 FEET FOR THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

IN THE UPPER CORNER HERE, THERE DOES NEED TO BE A DETENTION AREA IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE SITE.

THE DESIGNER VIEW COMMITTEE DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD BE SCREENED FROM BUTLER DRIVE AND IF WE THINK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THAT MAKES SENSE.

THIS IS PRIMARILY ADDRESSED THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A SIX-FOOT ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE LANDSCAPING.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE INCLUDED SOME EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG BOTH THE ALLEY AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DETENTION POND.

IF YOU WERE WALKING ALONG BUTLER, THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATELY SCREENED.

THIS IS IN COMBINATION WITH SOME VINES THAT WOULD GROW UP ALONG THAT METAL FENCING.

IN ADDITION, ON THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF TREES AND OTHER PLANTINGS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE AREAS.

THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS A LITTLE BIT ATYPICAL AS WELL.

GENERALLY SPEAKING WHEN WE LOOK FOR OUR MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT WE START WITH OUR GENERAL HEIGHTENED AREA REGULATIONS AND WE GO TO THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT.

EXCUSE ME. [NOISE] FOR EXAMPLE, IF A PROPERTY WAS ZONED R7, WE WOULD GO TO THAT TABLE.

IT WOULD LIST THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER UNIT. WE WOULD GO FROM THERE.

MORE TYPICALLY, YOU'LL SEE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WHICH REQUIRES ONE ACRE PER 75 DWELLING UNITS.

SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THERE IS NOT A MINIMUM [NOISE] LISTED WITHIN THAT BASE ZONING DISTRICT.

BECAUSE THE APPLICANT TONIGHT IS ONLY COMING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, NEITHER OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WERE TRIGGERED IN THIS CASE.

>> HAYLEY, CAN I QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE?

>> SURE.

>> THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE HAS BOTH REAR AND FRONT ENTRANCE BY RIGHT AWAY OF A STREET BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE EAST SIDE PROPERTY JUST HAS A REAR ACCESS.

IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? THERE'S NO ROAD IN THE FRONT.

>> CORRECT. THIS WOULD BE AMUSED CONDITION.

WE HAVE SIMILAR PROPERTIES AND THROUGHOUT SOME OF OUR TOWN HOME SUBDIVISIONS FOR THE FRONT AND OPEN SPACE.

THE ALLEY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CENTER OF THIS PROPERTY IS WIDE ENOUGH TO BE A FIRE LANE SO THEY STILL HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO SERVICE THOSE HOMES.

>> THERE'LL BE A WALKWAY IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, IS IT?

>> YES. IN BOTH THE SITE PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SIDEWALKS CONNECTING FROM BOTH BUTLER AND BOYD ON THE NORTH AND EASTERN ENDS OF THE PROPERTIES SO THERE IS ADEQUATE ACCESS.

>> FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

>> OPEN SPACE, THE APPLICANT IS STILL PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND THAT IS REFLECTED AND SHOWN AS A MONETIZED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

FINALLY, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

THERE'S MORE TO LOOK AT HERE THAN USUAL, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY REGULATE BUILDING MATERIALS.

BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S DESIGNATED HISTORICALLY AND ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT, THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DO STILL APPLY.

THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY EXCEEDING THESE REQUIREMENTS AND IS PROVIDING A 100 PERCENT MASONRY ON ALL ELEVATIONS.

WHEN THIS APPLICATION INITIALLY WENT TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT THEY LOOK FOR.

THERE ARE THE GENERAL PROVISIONS WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

WE THINK OF PROVISIONS LIKE HARMONIZE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND THEN THERE ARE SPECIFIC SO 100 PERCENT MASONRY ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

WHILE DRC CERTAINLY HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS, WHEN THEY DID MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS, THE CONDITIONS WERE BASED ON SPECIFIC PARAMETERS.

>> HAYLEY, [OVERLAPPING] DID THE APPLICANT EVER CONSIDER PROVIDING A BIT MORE OF A HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL [NOISE] EXTERIOR VERSUS THIS MORE MODERN, IF YOU WILL?

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[NOISE] [OVERLAPPING] WHATSOEVER ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT?

>> WE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ELEMENTS.

DRC BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND THE APPLICANT HAS ALWAYS COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MODERN LOOK.

I THINK PART OF THAT MIGHT BE THE ROOF LINE.

THE ROOF LINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY FLAT.

>> WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS AND AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT EARLIER, WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE, AND TO SOME THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THERE WAS A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CITY.

I THINK WE'VE ALL DRIVEN DOWN THERE ON BOYD AND ONE GUY, I THINK APPROPRIATELY THEY CALL IT A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE LIBRARY KITTY CORNER, WHICH HAS NO HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

YOU GOT THIS OLD DECREPIT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT ACROSS BOYD, BUILDING THAT HOUSES A BUNCH OF VARIETY OF THINGS.

[NOISE] I GUESS IF I LOOK AT THE ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ON THE CBD AND UNDER DUTIES, THERE'S THIS POINT THAT SAYS, "A DESIGNER CAN INITIALLY IMPROVE THE DESIGN PLAN IF THEY DETERMINE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION ALTERATION OR DISSIMENT IS A SUCH APPEARANCE AND DESIGN THAT THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHEN CONSTRUCTED OR REMODELED OR THE ALTERATIONS SATISFIES THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT STANDARDS." THEN YOU GO ON TO NUMBER 3 AND IT SAYS, "THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SHALL REVIEW REQUESTS FOR DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SUCH DESIGNATION." I GET IT, THOSE ALMOST CONTRADICT EACH OTHER IN MY MIND BECAUSE AN HB 2439, IF IT HAS A HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, WE AS A CITY CAN CONTROL WHAT THE MATERIAL IS BEING USED AND HOW IT LOOKS.

IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, HB 2439 OVERRULES.

ADMITTEDLY, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE ON THE FRONT LINES ABOUT PRESERVING THAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA? BECAUSE THE CBD IS, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE CBD.

I THINK IT'S TOO BROAD, AND WE HAVE TO NARROW IT IN.

IS IT JUST THE MAIN STREET AND JUST A BLOCK OFF OR DOWN TO THE POST OFFICE? IS IT BEYOND THAT? IS IT DOWN TO THE HERITAGE VILLAGE AT SAINT MARY'S? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WHAT DOES BOTHER ME IS THAT WHEN I READ THIS ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE CBD, [NOISE] IT CONCERNS ME THAT HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO DO IT RIGHT DOWNTOWN? IF THIS SECTION OF THE ALLEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS SO AMBIGUOUS AND IT'S A HODGEPODGE.

IT CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY SYMMETRY.

NONE OF THEM LOOK ALIKE AND ONE LOOKS LIKE THIS AND ONE LOOKS LIKE THAT. I GET IT.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT REMOVED AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOST THAT WE RESTORE THE HERITAGE, THE HISTORICAL RELEVANCE DOWNTOWN.

I HOPE WE TAP THE BRAKES HAVE BEEN ON DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW WE CAN'T SQUEEZE THE DEVELOPERS, BUT TO ASK ABOUT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, AND ASK ABOUT CONSTRUCTING EXHIBIT D, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS IN A MANNER THAT'S FITTING FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TOWN HOMES DOWN THERE.

WE NEED TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LDC ON THE CBD BEFORE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL THIS HODGEPODGE AGAIN, AS I HATE TO SAY.

IT GOES BACK TO MY QUESTION, WAS THERE EVER ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IN CONSTRUCTING THINGS? WHEN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETS WITH DEVELOPERS SAY, "PLEASE HELP US PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER."

>> I'LL SPEAK TO A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.

I THINK WHEN YOU WERE READING THROUGH THE SPECIFIC TASKS THAT ARE DELEGATED TO THIS DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROVISION LATER ON IN THE LDC FOR DESIGNATING TAX EXEMPT STRUCTURES.

I THINK WHEN YOU'RE READING THOSE INJECTS POSITION, THEY DO FEEL LIKE CONTRAST.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CBD AS A WHOLE, THERE ARE TRUE STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT LONG AGO THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, MAYBE NOT UNDER A STATE OR FEDERAL DESIGNATION, BUT CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.

WHEN I READ THAT, NUMBER 3,

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THAT'S WHAT I THINK OF IS THE ABILITY OF CITY COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY MAKE A TAX EXEMPT STATUS IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

WHICH, IN MY FIVE YEARS OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT, AND I'M NOT SURE THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAVE.

BUT WHEN WE DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANT BEFORE DRC, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY FOCUSED IN ON WAS HARMONIZING WITH THE EXISTING SURROUNDINGS, WHICH IS DIFFICULT.

KNOWING THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES THERE AND THE ARCHITECTURE, THAT'S WHAT WE THOUGHT AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THE OTHER SURROUNDING BUILDINGS.

WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT IN THE LDC THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DRC DID TALK ABOUT WAS THE PROMINENCE OF THE FRONT DOOR.

SO THE APPLICANT IN-BETWEEN THERE TWO DRC MEETINGS DID ADD A PROMINENT PORCH, WHICH HELPS BLEND THAT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACE.

THEY DID ADD BAY WINDOWS IN ORDER TO HELP, AGAIN, ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOALS.

THEY ADDED DELINEATIONS BETWEEN UNITS TO GET SOME RHYTHM AS YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET.

I DO HAVE SOME NOTES.

SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE.

SPECIFIC PROVISIONS ABOUT WHAT CAN BE ASKED OF THE APPLICANT OTHER THAN A BROAD ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT COULD BE MADE WITHIN THE ELEVATIONS FROM THAT POINT.

BUT WHEN THE DRC DID REVIEW IT, THEY DID ULTIMATELY APPROVE IT AND FEEL THAT IT WAS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THESE AVERAGING STANDARDS.

I STILL THINK YOUR OVERALL POINT WAS WELL TAKEN.

THAT'S WHY THE VISIONING PLAN IS HAPPENING, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PART WOULD BE A REVISION TO THE CODE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT FOR A SECOND IF I COULD.

DID THIS DEVELOPER MEET WITH THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE?

>> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

>> WERE THEY ENCOURAGED TO?

>> AT THIS POINT, THE INITIAL APPLICATION CAME IN, IN JULY OF '21.

THAT WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DOWNTOWN'S STEERING PROCESS.

WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY WERE SUBJECT TO THE EXISTING LDC PROVISIONS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE NOT ENCOURAGED TO NECESSARILY MEET.

I KNOW THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSULTANT AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING WHAT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS WERE OUT THERE.

I CAN ASK THEM TO SPEAK TO THAT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THOSE NOTES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, [NOISE] THAT CHANGES CAN BE MADE.

>> SOUNDS LIKE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE THIS ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE AND THERE WAS A TACIT PLEDGE TO GET SOME CITIZEN INPUT OR SOME DESIGN, EXCUSE ME, DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE INPUT.

DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE SAY HOW MANY INTERACTIONS THEY HAD ACTUALLY WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS? THAT WAS CERTAINLY PLEDGED.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF IT WAS ACTED UPON AND TO WHAT DEPTH. THAT'S IT.

>> ALL THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE MET WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE? THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE HANDLED THAT INTERNALLY AS A CITY VERSUS SENDING THE APPLICANT TO POINT A, B, C.

>> WELL, I'LL SAY THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE IS MOSTLY STAFF AND ALLOW THEM OR AROUND THEM ARE AIDED THE DSC.

THE TWO COMMITTEES HAVE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, LET'S SAY PEOPLE, A LOT OF THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

>> HAYLEY, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY? > SURE. THE CURRENT ZONING IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT WHERE THEY'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WHERE THE DELINEATION WAS MADE BECAUSE IN SOME INSTANCES, WHETHER THAT'S EITHER AN INTENSITY OR LOCATION, THIS USE MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

>> WHAT CAN CURRENTLY BE BUILT THERE BY [INAUDIBLE]? [OVERLAPPING]

>> OFFICE, RETAIL ARE GREAT EXAMPLES.

URBAN RESIDENTIAL CAN ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTED BY [INAUDIBLE] PROVIDED THEY MEET BOTH THE PROVISIONS OF THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, ANC, CBD STANDARDS.

>> HOW MANY UNITS OF URBAN RESIDENTIAL CAN BE PUT ON THAT PROPERTY?

>> IT'S JUST OVER AN ACRE.

IT WOULD BE JUST AROUND 40, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THERE ARE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT WOULD LIKELY IMPACT THAT.

IF I LOOK AT JUST THE DENSITY WHICH IS CAPPED AT 32 UNITS AN ACRE, THAT WOULD BE THE ANSWER.

THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO MEET STRUCTURE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS INTERIOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED CORRIDORS.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE FIRE ACCESS.

IT WOULD LIKELY BE MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN MEETING THAT DENSITY NUMBER IN ADDITION TO MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMITS.

I SUSPECT IT WOULD NOT ACTUALLY REACH THAT HIGH IF THEY MET ALL OF THE OTHER STANDARDS.

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>> IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

>> IF THEY MET ALL THE STANDARDS, DO YOU HAVE A BEST ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT NUMBER OF UNITS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY?

>> I'M HONESTLY NOT SURE.

>> OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. [LAUGHTER]

>> BASED ON MY GUESS, I THINK THEY WOULD AT LEAST DOUBLE WHAT'S THERE, IF NOT MORE. [OVERLAPPING] RIGHT. CORRECT.

>> I'LL LET YOU CALCULATE IT.

>> DAREN WAS NEXT.

>> I'M SORRY, DAREN.

>> I NEED TO GIVE HIM THE RIGHT.

>> YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER CORNETTE'S COMMENT; IF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF SEVERAL OF THE SAME MEMBERS AS THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE, THEN THAT ACTUALLY STRENGTHENS THE DECISION IN MY MIND THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE GAVE, WHICH WAS APPROVAL.

>> OF STAFF. I'M TALKING OF STAFF ONLY, WHERE THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE IS MAINLY MADE UP OF CITIZENS WITH STAFF ASSISTING.

THE DOWNTOWN REVIEW COMMITTEE IS MAINLY STAFF, I THINK WITH ONE CITIZEN?

>> TWO.

>> TWO.

>> MY APOLOGIES TO.

I'M ALSO ON THAT BUT I DON'T GET TO VOTE, NEITHER.

THEY'RE SEPARATE BUT [OVERLAPPING] THERE'S SOME OF THE SOME PLAYERS.

>> IT'S CONVOLUTED.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THIS PROCESS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I BROUGHT THAT UP IN [INAUDIBLE] NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING QUICK.

>> YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> LET ME JUST MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT.

>> SURE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE IS THAT COMMITTEE IS GOING TO COME BACK, TURN IN A REPORT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT TO DO TO THE PROCESS INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SPECIFICALLY TO BEEF UP AND STRAIGHTEN OUT A LOT OF THIS.

BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION IN THE ALDC ABOUT CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND WHAT YOU CAN DO HERE, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO THERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CLEANUP TO DO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE HAD THAT DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO IT AND DO IT RIGHT.

>> YEAH, AND I THINK IF WE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE IS THAT WE NEED TO SHORE UP THE CBD PORTION OF THE ALDC.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.

UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT NEEDS TO CUT DOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS STRUCTURE SO YOU CAN'T REALLY PUSH BACK.

THE ONLY THING AGAIN THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR WAS THAT, WAS THERE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL TYPE OF FEATURES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA? I GET IT THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH WE COULD DO OTHER THAN TO DEMAND IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN TO THE CORNER AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE THAT'S GOING AND YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREETS, THERE'S NOTHING HISTORICAL ABOUT THAT CORNER.

[LAUGHTER] I THINK WE JUST REALLY NEED TO TAP ON THE BRAKES AND GET IN FRONT OF THIS CBD PORTION OF THE ALDC.

PARTICULARLY IF SOMEBODY COMES DOWN ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE TRAIN DEPOT ON AUSTIN STREET, YOU KNOW HOW ALL THOSE BUILDINGS ARE? THEY ARE OLD.

IF SOMEBODY COMES IN THERE AND SAYS, "I WANT TO BUY THAT PROPERTY FOR A MILLION DOLLARS, AND WHAT I'M GOING TO PUT ON THERE IS TOWN HOMES," WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHAT I CALL THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHERE YOU REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE DOWNTOWN.

AGAIN, WE'VE ALSO GOT TO DEFINE WHAT IS DOWNTOWN? I DON'T MEAN TO RANT, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE FOR ME BECAUSE I'M A HISTORIAN KIND OF GUY AND WE HAVE A GREAT HISTORY IN THIS CITY.

YOU KNOW THE OLD STONE DAM.

WHAT MADE OUR CITY IS STEAM LOCOMOTIVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT HISTORY BEHIND.

>> [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE HOLD UP. [LAUGHTER] THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE OVER HERE.

DAREN, DID YOU GET SATISFIED ON YOUR COMMENTS? OKAY. CARL, DID YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS?

>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT'S THE TOUGH THING.

IT'S HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HODGEPODGE DOWNTOWN, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

IT'S NOT LIKE IF YOU'RE IN BROOKLYN AND IT'S ALL BROWN STONES.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU CAN EMULATE, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

THE FACT THAT IT'S ALL BRICKWORK, THAT'S A PLUS.

IT GIVES A LITTLE FANCIER FINISH, BUT UNTIL YOU DEFINE WHAT THAT IS DOWNTOWN, IT BECOMES MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

DO YOU HOLD UP DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT COULD BE A GOOD PRODUCT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.

>> [INAUDIBLE] GOOD. [INAUDIBLE]?

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>> SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED TO GO OVER THE ALDC WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CBD AND ACTUALLY DEFINE WHAT WE WANT THERE AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT THERE.

WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE BUILT BY WRITING, WHAT WE DON'T, BUT EITHER WAY, WITH REGARD TO THIS 16 UNITS VERSUS ANYWHERE FROM 32-40, I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS WHERE I STAND ON THAT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> I'LL JUST SAY REAL QUICK, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I HAVE HALF A MIND TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THEY TALK TO THE DSC.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GO QUITE THAT FAR JUST YET, BUT I'M HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED THAT YET ANOTHER DEVELOPER CONTRACTOR IS COMING IN ALLEN, BETTER BLOCK, THREE YEARS, THIS DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE, WELL, YOUR COUNTLESS HOURS AND DOLLARS SPENT ON DEVELOPING THIS AND WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO FOLLOW THE PLAN.

WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO WAIT FOR THE PLAN.

>> BUT YOU ARE ON THE DSC, WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENED?

>> WE NEED TO REDO THE ALDC, IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THIS IS A COUNCIL THING, NOT A DSC THING.

>> NO, BUT YOU ARE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AS WELL.

>> I'M A NON-VOTING MEMBER.

>> THAT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU'RE STILL [INAUDIBLE].

>> I [INAUDIBLE] CONCERNS.

I'M A NON-VOTING MEMBER.

NONETHELESS, SOONER THAN LATER, WE NEED TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A HALF OF MIND TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THIS IS COMPLETED, SO I'M STILL DECIDING ON THAT.

>> DAREN?

>> HAILEY, WERE YOU FINISHED WITH THE PRESENTATION?

>> I CAN FINISH IT IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS. DON'T WORRY.

[LAUGHTER] SO THIS IS IF YOU'RE ON BOYD, THIS IS THE ELEVATION YOU'LL SEE.

THERE'S STILL SOME FENESTRATION ON SOME WINDOWS.

THIS IS THE ELEVATION FROM THE ALLEY.

THIS IS ALL OF THE GARAGES.

AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE CENTERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE SIMPLE, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THERE'S NO CHANGES, JUST ADOPTION OF THE EXHIBITS AS WE'VE REFERENCED.

P&Z DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTS AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HAILEY? I UNDERSTAND THE PROPONENT IS HERE, BUT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

>> THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WE HAVE FOLLOW-UP.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF NOT, THANK YOU, HAILEY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, HAILEY.

>> [NOISE] I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND I DO HAVE SOME CARDS.

I WILL RECALL FAHIM KHAN WHO CAME UP EARLIER, GOT YOU IN THE RIGHT STACK THIS TIME IN YOUR 400 CHISHOLM PLACE, SUITE 310 FROM PLANO 75015.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE CITIZEN.

MY NAME IS FAHIM KHAN. I'M THE ARCHITECT OF THIS PROJECT.

I THINK HAILEY DID A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT ALL THESE THINGS.

ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AND TELL YOU THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE LAST ONE YEAR AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE CITY ORDINANCE, CITY CODE, CITY REGULATIONS, AND WE WENT BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE DSC MEETING TWICE.

THEY'VE REVIEWED OUR DRAWINGS AND ELEVATIONS, THEY APPROVED IT.

WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY APPROVED IT.

NOW WE ARE HERE AND ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

I KNOW YOU DISCUSSED ABOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUT TO ME, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE CITY OF ALLEN TO [INAUDIBLE] TO A HISTORIC PRESERVATION OR HISTORIC BUILDING.

RECENTLY, I HAVE DONE ONE GOOD PROJECT IN DENTON, DOWNTOWN.

IT WAS 1932 LOOP CENTER.

I PRESERVED IT. MY CLIENT MADE IT AS A RESTAURANT.

WE PRESERVED ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURE ELEMENTS, WHAT WE HAVE THERE FROM 1932.

BUT FOR THIS PROJECT, THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT, THE NEW BUILDING.

WHEN WE DID THE STUDY ON THESE AREAS, I FOUND ONE NEW BUILDING AT THE LIBRARY.

I CANNOT PICK ANYTHING FROM THERE BECAUSE IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT KIND OF VIEWS, AND OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE NORTH SIDE TO RESIDENCE, IT'S SIDE IS A RAILROAD.

SOUTH SIDE IS, I THINK A TILE SHOP OR SOMETHING.

I MET WITH THIS GENTLEMAN AND TALKED TO THEM.

HE'S VERY HAPPY. ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE IS ONE STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS.

SO TO ME, IF I KNEW THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES I HAVE TO FOLLOW, WE COULD DISCUSS EARLIER, BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANY GUIDELINE.

WE PREPARED THE DRAWING BASED ON OUR BEST JUDGMENT, IT FULFILLED MY CLIENT'S REQUIREMENT AND IT COMPLIES WITH ALL THE CITY ORDINANCE AND THE CODES. [INAUDIBLE]. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTION FOR ME?

>> NO. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER?

>> I'M THE ARCHITECT.

>> ARCHITECT?

>> YES.

>> WHY DID YOU NOT SEEK THE COUNSEL OF THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE?

>> WHEN WE TOOK THE PROJECT LAST YEAR, WE WERE NOT INFORMED THAT WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE CITY.

>> MS. HAILEY JUST SAT HERE AND SAID, "YES."

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MS. HAILEY STOOD HERE AND SAID THAT YOU WERE ADVISED TO TALK TO THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE.

>> NO. WE TALKED TO THE DSC MEMBERS.

>> BUT WHY NOT THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE?

>> WERE WE INFORMED THAT WE HAVE TO? NO, [INAUDIBLE].

>> WHEN STANTEC CAME ON BOARD TO HELP THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE MANAGE THE PROCESS, WE DID INFORM STANTEC OF THE OPEN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, BUT WE DID NOT INFORM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY NEEDED TO DIRECTLY REACH OUT TO STANTEC NECESSARILY.

SO WE HAD EXPECTED THAT IF STANTEC WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE OPEN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.

>> [OVERLAPPING]. OKAY. [INAUDIBLE], YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU.

>> I APOLOGIZE IF I WAS CONFUSING.

>> OKAY.

>> WHAT I HAD INTENDED TO SAY IS THAT WE DID NOT DIRECTLY REQUIRE THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE.

>> YOU DID NOT REQUIRE THEM, BUT YOU DID SAY, "HEY.

YOU MAY WANT TO GO DO THIS." THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

>> AT THE TIME THAT THEY INITIALLY SUBMITTED THE SUP APPLICATION, THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE WAS JUST GETTING STARTED.

SO THAT WAS AROUND EARLY JULY, AND TRULY WHEN THE APPLICATION CAME IN, WE KNEW THAT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE EXISTING ALDC REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF THE APPLICATION.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR ME?

>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD NOW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE].

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS YOUR REAL NAME [LAUGHTER], 403 WEST COATS DRIVE, ALLEN, 75013.

[NOISE]

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. L. LANGER, MS. GEORGE, AND YES, THAT IS MY ADDRESS.

[LAUGHTER] I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TOWNHOME PROJECT PLAN FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THE LACK OF OVERSIGHT BY THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND FOLLOWING SOME OF THEIR OWN GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA FOR APPROVING THIS PROJECT.

THIS COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF FIVE KNOWLEDGEABLE CITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS PLUS TWO CITIZENS.

MR. CARBON SAID IS THE CHAIR AND YOU KNOW ALL OF THEM.

WHEN THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, I'M TOLD THE OWNER WAS ASKED TO WAIT FOR THE DOWNTOWN STEERING COMMITTEE FINAL REPORT THIS YEAR AND THAT PERSON REFUSED.

THEN THEY WERE GIVEN A LIST OF FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS TO CHANGES MADE ACCORDING TO THE ALDC, WHICH INCLUDED REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 4.08.19.2.C, CALLED PURPOSE, AND THEIR APPROVAL IS BASED UPON OTHER THINGS AND I QUOTE, "CONCERNED WITH NOT ONLY THE SPECIFIC PROJECT DESIGN, BUT ALSO EFFECT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

MAJOR MODIFICATIONS WILL ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

PRESERVE THE NATURAL, HISTORIC, AND ARCHITECTURAL QUALITIES OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, ESTABLISHED AND ENHANCE AESTHETIC AND ARCHITECTURAL COMPATIBILITY WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

ENSURE THAT BUILDINGS DESIGNS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN TERMS OF SCALE, MASS, BUILDING PATTERNS, FACADE ARTICULATION, AND INCORPORATING DESIGN ELEMENTS OF PYRAMIDAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLES." THEN UNDER SECTION 4.08.19.2.G.2 MORE, I QUOTE, "NEW BUILDINGS SHOULD INCORPORATE TRADITIONAL DESIGN ELEMENTS.

I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT.

NEW BUILDINGS SHOULD INCORPORATE TRADITIONAL DESIGN ELEMENTS.

THESE THINGS ARE MENTIONED IN FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES.

THERE IS NOTHING TRADITIONAL ABOUT THIS UGLY DESIGN.

IT LOOKS LIKE APARTMENTS THAT THEY DECIDED TO NAME TOWNHOMES TO APPEAL TO PROSPECTIVE TENANTS AND IS DEFINITELY NOT AESTHETIC PLEASING TO THE EYE.

IT DOES NOT ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OR QUALITIES OF THE CBD.

AT THE SECOND DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING, THEY DID MAKE SOME CHANGES, BUT NO TRADITIONAL DESIGN IN EXTERIOR AND I'M SURE THE ARCHITECT KNOWS WHAT TRADITIONAL MEANS.

WHEN I SPOKE AT THE P&C MEETING ON MAY 3RD, BROUGHT UP OUT ALL OF THESE AND THE ARCHITECTS SAID HE HAD NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO IN THE CBD.

I WONDER IF HE DROVE AROUND AT CBD TO LOOK BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.

WHEN YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT A DESIGN, THEN YOU STICK WITH SOMETHING CLASSIC AND TRADITIONAL

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LOOKS BECAUSE THAT ALWAYS WORKS AND HE'S INVITING.

>> I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

>> CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT?

>> ONE QUICK COMMENT.

>> I ASKED YOU TONIGHT TO REMAND THIS PROJECT BACK TO THE DESIGN REMOVED COMMITTEE WITH AN AMENDMENT FOR THE ARCHITECT TO CHANGE THE EXTERIOR DESIGN TO TRADITIONAL LOOK THAT IS INVITING AND WILL COMPLEMENT ALL MODERN ALLEN PUBLIC LIBRARY AND OTHER BUILDINGS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU DIDDIE. NEXT I HAVE I BELIEVE IT'S ONE OF THE PROPONENTS, DR. HAWK.

IS THAT CORRECT? 1300 EAST BETHANY ALLEN, 75 W2.

>> YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU ALL HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DR. HAWK.

LIKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN I DECIDED TO DO MY PET HOSPITAL DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT WAS A JUNKYARD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VERY HIGHLY DENSE POPULATED AREA.

NOT ONLY POPULATED IS ALSO IN FONT OF A GOVERNMENT OFFICE BUILDING IN FRONT OF THE FIRE SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

PROBABLY SOME OF YOU CAN REMEMBER IT WAS A TOTAL JUNKYARD ENCLOSED BY SOME FENCE, SO I APPLIED FOR THE PET HOSPITAL THERE WAS NO JOINING.

NOW LOOK AT THAT PLACE, HOW IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY APPRECIATE I BROUGHT THE BUSINESS, I BOUGHT THE AREA IN HIGHLIGHT.

SIMILARLY, WHEN I DECIDED TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER THERE, I HAD AN INTENTION TO BUILD AN APARTMENT BUILDING.

LIKE A BENEFIT POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MUCH MORE MONEY IF YOU BUILD A APARTMENT, IS THE MIXED USE APARTMENT LIKE A FLOOR PART WILL BE SHOPPING CENTER AND THEN THE FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, THIRD FLOOR CAN BE APARTMENT.

ANY DEVELOPER CAN MAKE MORE MONEY.

I DID NOT LOOK FOR THAT ONE AND I DISCUSSED WITH CITY OFFICIAL IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.

THEY ACTUALLY SAID, SEE LIKE HOW THE SURROUNDING PEOPLE LIKE REACT.

I TALKED TO ALMOST EVERYONE AND THEN FINALLY, I DECIDED TO GO FOR TOWNHOME.

I ALSO DISCUSSED WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THEY ALSO ENCOURAGE YES ACTUALLY, PEOPLE DOES NOT LIKE TO SEE THE CROWDED DOWNTOWN.

BETTER TOWNHOME WILL BE THE BEST APPROACH.

I DECIDED TO DO TOWNHOME.

NOW, TRADITIONAL VIEW OR HISTORY PRESERVATION, A LOT OF THINGS CAN COME UP.

I WAS NOT INFORMED ABOUT THOSE AT ALL.

I WAS NOT INFORMED ABOUT THE STEERING COMMITTEE.

I WAS NOT INFORMED THE ALLEN REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I TRIED TO STUDY IT.

WHAT PEOPLE ASK, I HAVE ALL THESE COMMENTS HERE.

I PRINTED A 106 COMMENTS FROM THE ALLEN REVITALIZATION WEBSITE.

EVERYBODY ASKING FOR WALKING SPACE, DOG WALKING SPACE, SEATING ARRANGEMENT, BEACH, AT BOND, EVERYTHING.

IN MY PROJECT, I PUT EVERYTHING, KIDS PLAYING AREA, SURROUNDING WALKING AREA, SEATING AREA, IT WILL LOST UP PLEASE EVERYTHING I PUT IN, IF YOU KINDLY SEE THIS MINUTE, YOU'LL SEE EVERYTHING IS THERE, EVERY COMPONENT IS THERE.

YES. ONE THING YOU CAN SAY, IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL BUILDING, NOT A HISTORY BUILDING.

THERE'S NO HISTORY BUILDING IN THE CBD AREA.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CBD.

IF I GO TO DALLAS DOWNTOWN, THERE ARE SOME OLD BUILDING.

IF WE GO FORTS DOWNTOWN, YOU WILL SEE VERY MODERN BUILDING.

YOU WILL SEE VERY HISTORIC BUILDING.

EVERY DOWNTOWN HAS A TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENT.

OLDER BUILDING AND ANOTHER ONE IS A NEWER BUILDING.

MY ONE IS NEITHER ORDER NOR VERY NEW.

IT'S LIKE A MIXED TYPE OF IMPRESSION.

I BELIEVE PEOPLE MAY TAKE,

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OKAY, SO I BELIEVE WE'RE BUILDING.

SOME PEOPLE SAY ALWAYS VERY FINE FANTASTIC BUILDING.

SOME PEOPLE CAN SAY UGLY.

SOME PEOPLE CAN SAY, I CANNOT SATISFY A 100 PERCENT PEOPLE.

BUT ONE PLUS YEARS I HAVE BEEN RUNNING AND THEN DID A LOT OF THINGS.

>> I'M SORRY YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

>> I'M DONE, ALMOST DONE.

I BELIEVE THIS IS MINE.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU'RE THE PROPONENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC SESSION LIKE THIS.

YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL WE CLOSE IT AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANKS. NEXT I HAVE CHRISTIE WOODARD WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT WANTS TO BE RECORDED IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.

I BELIEVE THE ADDRESSES 301 NORTH GREENVILLE, APARTMENT 192 ALLEN, 75 W2.

THEN I HAVE PAMELA ACKERMAN WHO ALSO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT WANTS TO BE RECORDED IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

SHE'S A 738 LIVINGSTON DRIVE.

ALLEN, 75 W2.

THAT'S ALL THE CARDS THAT I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR IT GETS THIS REQUEST? IF YOU DO, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE COMING FORWARD.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN THE MATTER BACK OVER TO THE COUNCIL. COMMENTS?

>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I'M CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS CASE REMARKS AND I THINK PEOPLE KNOW WHERE I STAND AS FAR AS PRESERVING THE HISTORICAL STRUCTURE AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE HAIL DC AND AS IT'S WRITTEN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT CORNER SHOWS AND IT'S JUST THERE'S NO CONSISTENCY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION G, THE DESIGN PLAN STANDARDS OR THE CBD AND OR THE ALDC.

IT SAYS EVERY FACADE OF A NEW BUILDING OR STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WILL PRESENT AN UNINTERRUPTED FACE SIMILAR AND LINK TO OTHER STRUCTURES OF THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

WELL, THERE'S NONE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

FOR US TO SUGGEST THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WANT IT, WHAT WOULD THEY DO TO BE CONSISTENT? IT GOES ON AND SAYS CONFORMANCE WITH THE PRE-DOMINANT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A COHESIVE STREETS CAPE AND APPEARANCE.

WELL, I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY BUILT THERE.

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING COHESIVE.

IT'S JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S THE ALDC IS THE ALDC AND I GET IT.

I KNOW I'M UP HERE SAYING, MAN, I WANT TO PRESERVE THEIR HISTORICAL STRUCTURE BUT I WOULD, GUESS I'M COMPROMISING MY PRINCIPLES A BIT.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND MAYBE PERHAPS SHAME ON US FOR NOT HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC IN THE CODE.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING AND RECOMMENDING FITS THE AREA, FITS THE CODE AND FITS THE CBD REGULATIONS.

I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT BUT IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT I CAN DO ABOUT IT.

>> THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IS THAT PARTICULAR LOT OF LAND HAS BEEN VACANT FOR THE BETTER PART OF THREE DECADES.

GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE '90S, THE OFFICE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT HOUSED A DAYCARE CENTER THAT ACTUALLY USED THAT FIELD AS THE PLAYGROUND UP UNTIL IT WAS FORCED TO CLOSE IN 2008.

TO YOUR POINT, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THERE TO COMPARE IT WITH.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR HAYLEY, THOUGH.

ASSUMING COUNCIL VOTES TO APPROVE THIS, WILL THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE REMOVE THE BEREICH FOR MULTIFAMILY AT THAT POINT?

>> NO. WHAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS JUST THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE TOWN HOME USE.

WHAT I WOULD EXPECT FROM THE DSC PROCESS AND THE VISION PLAN WOULD BE A SUBSEQUENT UPDATE TO THE ON LAND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH WOULD ADDRESS ANY USES, CHANGES TO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHATEVER PLAN IS BROUGHT BEFORE AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN JUNE.

TONIGHT IS JUST THE SEP FOR THE TOWN HOMES THAT IS HERE ON THIS PLOT OF LAND.

>> DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THE BEREICH FOR APARTMENTS FOR THIS CHUNK OF LAND IN THE PROCESS OF APPROVING THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT?

>> I DON T THINK YOU DO IN THIS.

NOT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED, IT DOES NOT.

THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.

>> LET'S ACTUALLY GO BACK [INAUDIBLE]

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>> IF EITHER COUNCIL CHOSE TO NOT APPROVE THIS TONIGHT AND IF ONE DAY SOMEBODY ELSE CAME IN AND WANTED TO DEVELOP APARTMENTS, URBAN RESIDENTIAL BY RIGHT AND MET ALL OF THE STANDARDS, TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD GO TO THE DOWNTOWN OR THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IF THEY MET ALL OF THE STANDARDS THERE AND ALL OF THE STANDARDS IN THE ALDC, IT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

>> IF I MAY ASK, HOW SOON COMPARED TO GROUND ON THIS IF IT GETS APPROVED?

>> YES. I UNDERSTAND FROM MY CLIENT THAT MOMENT HE GETS THE PERMIT HE'LL START DOING THE CONSTRUCTION. GROUND BREAK.

>> I'M SORRY.

>>THE MOMENT THEY GET THE PERMISSION, THEN THEY WILL START DOING THE GROUND BREAKING.

>> YOU'RE PREPARED AS SOON AS WE APPROVE?

>> YES.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M NOT UPSET AT THE LANDLORD.

I'M HOPING THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE SPEAR THAT REALLY KICKS OFF OUR CBD.

IN THE SAME ASPECT, WE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY THE TIP OF THE SPEAR THAT IS GOING TO KICK OFF OUR CBD.

BUT LIKE CHRIS WAS TALKING, IT IS WHAT IT IS, IS THE ALDC.

WE GOT TO GO BY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS WHAT HE HAS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THIS JUST IMPRESSES THE URGENCY THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR THE CBD THAT'S MORE COHERENT, MORE DIRECTED, MORE UNDERSTANDABLE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK HERE BECAUSE I'M SPLIT. I JUST DON'T KNOW.

>> CURL?

>> I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE PROCESS AS IT IS, THEY WENT THROUGH ALL, THEY FOLLOW THE CODE THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

THEY WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.

WITHOUT HAVING A MODEL FOR WHAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IS A PROJECT ON HIS OWN, IN MY OPINION, STANDS AS IS.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD VOTE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT PROJECT BASED ON THOSE PRINCIPLES.

>> ANYONE ELSE? I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU, HAYLEY.

SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY MINOR, BUT ARE THE UTILITIES GOING TO BE IMPROVED ON BUTLER AND BOYD WHEN THEY GO AHEAD AND PAY THAT CONCRETE OR WILL THEY BE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE SEEN A FULL UTILITY PLAN AT THIS POINT.

THERE WOULD ALSO BE THE ALLEY.

WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GET WATER AND SEWER TO THOSE HOMES THAT FACE THE DARK RIGHT-OF-WAY.

I IMAGINE THE ALLEY MAY BE USED FOR PART OF THAT, BUT WE'VE FIGURED THAT OUT LATER IN THE PROCESS.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN THAT LAND TO THE NORTH, IS THAT CURRENTLY THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WILL REMAIN THAT?

>> YES. COAT DRIVE RIGHT-OF-WAY EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE DARK RIGHT-OF-WAY SO IT WILL REMAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY AND A PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE IMPROVED FOR THE ALLEY.

>> OKAY. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ADDRESSED THE OPEN SPACE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING CRITICAL WHENEVER YOU DO A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

SORRY, I TOUCH MY SCREEN IN FLASH.

THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS IN THE ELEVATIONS, IT APPEARED THAT THEY HAD SOME, NOT THESE BUT ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU HAD ONE WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE FENCING OR SOME BARRIER.

DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE A PATIO ON THE ROOF OR IS THAT JUST STRICTLY FOR SAFETY?

>> IT IS AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT ONLY.

THAT DID COME UP DURING THE DRC MEETING, SO IT'S JUST A DECORATIVE ELEMENT ONLY TO ADD A DIFFERENCE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I HAD.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS BEYOND THAT.

THIS IS A NEW BUILDING AND LIKE EVERYBODY HAS ALREADY SAID, IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT HISTORICAL RIGHT THERE.

MAYBE THE DIRT'S HISTORICAL, BUT THERE'S NO BUILDING AROUND IT THAT'S HISTORICAL AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I THINK SOMETIMES WE TAKE SOME OF THE STUFF AT ALDC OUT OF CONTEXT THAT YOU READ ALL THAT STUFF AND SAY, WELL, IT MEANS THIS AND IT MEANS THAT.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THAT'S THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE I DON T THINK THAT THE ALDC WAS INTENDED TO SAY EVERYTHING IN THE CBD IS GOING TO LOOK HISTORICAL, HAS TO BE BUILT TO LOOK HISTORICAL.

I THINK BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT APPEARS TO BE HISTORICAL, HAS BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME, THEN GET WITH THE CITY AND TRY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT THAT IS.

THEN IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE HISTORICAL COMPONENTS THAT ARE SIDE-BY-SIDE,

[02:05:01]

I.E, MAIN STREET BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR HISTORICAL AREA IS.

THEN YOU DECIDE, HEY, YOU'RE PUTTING IN A BUILDING IN-BETWEEN TWO HISTORICAL BUILDINGS.

YOU NEED TO LOOK HISTORICAL.

I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT JUST TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYBODY HERE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENDED TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST, YOU'VE GOT TO BE HISTORICAL TOO.

THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE AND I DON T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT.

BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.

I HEARD A COMMENT ABOUT TRADITIONAL DESIGN NOT BEING HISTORICAL.

I THINK THAT'S BY DEFINITION, THAT'S CORRECT.

TRADITIONAL, DOES IT MEAN HISTORICAL.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.

BUT AS BEN SAID, ONE LAST POINT, AND THAT IS, THESE ARE TOWN HOMES.

THIS IS NOT MULTI-FAMILY, I.E, APARTMENTS, THIS IS OWNER-OCCUPIED.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF RENTERS.

PEOPLE COME IN AND GO AND THESE ARE PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY.

THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE IN AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL LIVE IN THEM FOR A LONG TIME AND BE THERE WHEN WE DO ALL THE OTHER GREAT THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN TO MAKE IT A GREAT PLACE.

WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE LAST OF MY COMMENTS AND I WOULD TURN THE ITEM OVER TO THE COUNCIL AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ACTION.

>> WE NEED AN ORDINANCE NUMBER.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 3916-5-22.

>> MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 3916-5-22.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT NOW.

IS THAT INTENDED OR? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IS AFTER THE LAST TIME.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> THANK YOU. SO THAT ITEM PASSES SIX TO ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT COUNCIL.

GOOD LUCK TO THE PROPONENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

[6.3 Conduct a public hearing and adopt an Ordinance to establish a Planned Development Zoning District with a Base Zoning of Light Industrial, Corridor Commercial, and Townhome and to adopt Development Regulations, Zoning Exhibit, Concept Plan, and Building Elevations for approximately 84.3632 acres in the George Fitzhugh survey generally located at the northwest corner of Chelsea Boulevard and Ridgeview Drive.]

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM 6.3, WHICH IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AND A BASE ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL IN TOWNHOME, AND TO ADOPT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, ZONING EXHIBIT, CONCEPT PLAN, AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR APPROXIMATELY 84.3632 ACRES IN THE GEORGE FITZHUGH SURVEY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CHELSEA BOULEVARD IN RIDGEVIEW DRIVE AND WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MARK [INAUDIBLE] MAKING THE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING MARK.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SKIP TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW, I WILL JUST READ INTO THE RECORD.

YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL LOCATION.

THIS PROPERTY I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, BACK TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE CITY.

LITTLE CLOSER VIEW AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF RIDGEVIEW IN CHELSEA.

THIS OUTLINE DOES REPRESENT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THE PRIOR ZONING ACTION, MOLDING INCORPORATED THE ROUGHLY THE WEST TWO-THIRDS SURROUNDING ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY TO THE WEST OR PD92 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR TO THE EAST ACROSS CHELSEA'S PD-139 MIX USE BASE, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND PG-13 WOULD BE ZONING OF R5 AND R6.

THESE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE PROPERTY.

THE INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT OUTLINED IN PURPLE, TO THE NORTHEAST IS THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OUTLINED IN RED AND THE SOUTHEAST IS THE TOWNHOME COMPONENT OUTLINED IN BROWN.

I'LL GO INTO THE TWO NEW COMPONENTS IN A MOMENT.

I'LL USE THIS IMAGE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL.

IN GENERAL, THE INDUSTRIALS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOU SAW LAST TIME AROUND.

THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT REGULATION TWEAKS, BUT THE LAYOUT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE SAME.

WE'VE NOT MADE ANY CHANGES FROM STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT [NOISE] REQUESTING ANY CHANGES FROM THE LAYOUT.

SO THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PURPLE LINE, WHICH IS DRIVE A, EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF THAT IS STAYING THE SAME.

I'LL ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT TO TRACK 3, WHICH IS THE TOWNHOME PORTION.

THE TOWNHOMES HAVE MAX UNIT OF 129 DWELLING UNITS AND JUST OVER NINE UNITS PER ACRE.

YOU CAN SEE THE WAY THAT THIS LAYOUT IS DONE.

A LOT OF WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS TO GET TO A LAYOUT THAT WORKS.

THEY WERE EXTREMELY PATIENT AND WORKED THROUGH A LOT OF ITERATIONS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THE COUNT OF CONCEPT PLAN NUMBERS THEY CAME UP WITH, BUT IMAGINE COAL TYPE IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE 20'S, OR NORTH OF THAT, THAT THEY CAME UP TO.

[02:10:02]

WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT FRONTED TO CHELSEA, WE REALLY WANTED TO RECOGNIZE AND WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE MIXED USE PORTION THAT'S BEING ADDED HERE ON THE SIDE IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF CHELSEA AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOES TRANSITION INTO IT AND DOES PRESENT A GOOD FRONT DOOR ON CHELSEA IS GOING TO COMPLEMENT WHAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF CHELSEA AND SO A LOT OF DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THERE.

>> MARK, REAL QUICK QUESTION HERE, JUST SO I CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AM I CORRECT THAT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT HERE, EVERYTHING FROM DRIVE A WEST IS NOT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE.

>> SO YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS WHOLE PROPERTY, THE WHOLE 84 ACRES.

BUT I'M SAYING IT'S JUST EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF DRIVE A, THE LAY OUT IS THE SAME AS YOU SAW BACK IN OCTOBER AND NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING.

BECAUSE THAT WAS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY DRIVEWAY WAS EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE ZONING REQUEST BACK IN OCTOBER.

>> SO IF FOR SOME REASON COUNSEL CHOSE NOT TO APPROVE THE CURRENT PLAN, EVERYTHING FROM DRIVE A WEST, WILL REMAIN AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED?

>> CORRECT. THERE'S CURRENT ZONING ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IN THIS PROPERTY OF THIS AMENDMENT WAS DISPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THE CURRENT ZONING ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE APPROVED IN OCTOBER WOULD STILL BE IN EFFECT.

>> WILL STILL BE EFFECTIVE. THANK YOU.

>> OTHER THINGS FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT THAT CAUSED US TO GO THROUGH THAT 20 PLUS ITERATIONS.

I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN OPEN SPACE COMPONENT THAT WAS CENTRAL.

DID NOT WANT OPEN SPACE SPEED THROW AWAY THAT TRIANGULAR PIECE OF LAND IN THE CORNER.

THAT'S NOT DEVELOPABLE.

SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE MAIN STREET, A LOT OF THOSE TOWNHOMES IS FOR TOWN ON BUILDING'S FRONT TO THAT OPEN SPACE HERE.

ONE, IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN HERE.

IT IS ALSO A NORTHSOUTH CORRIDOR MOVING RESIDENTS FROM THE SOUTH UP INTO THE NORTHERN PART, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS RESTAURANT AND OFFICE BUILDINGS.

RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWING THREE DIFFERENT RESTAURANT BUILDINGS ABOUT 24,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT, AND THEN 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE THROUGH TO FIVE STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS AND COMPLIMENTARY FOR LEVEL PARKING GARAGES.

WE REALLY WANTED TO WORK ON CREATING THAT TRANSITION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, HAVING OPEN SPACE TO TRANSITION UP TO THE OFFICE, UP TO THE RESTAURANTS, SO THAT THAT RESTAURANT USE WOULD BE THE CENTRAL LOCATION FOR BOTH OFFICE USERS AS DAYTIME POPULATION AND THEN RESIDENTS USERS AS NIGHT TIME AND WE CAN POPULATION AND JUST HAVE MOVEMENT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THAT THAT PORTION OF THE MIXED USE.

THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL, THESE ARE BASICALLY THE SAME.

THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT REGULATION CHANGE OR TWEAK THAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN A FEW SLIDES FROM NOW.

BUT THESE ELEVATIONS ARE HARD, THEY'RE GOING TO STAY THE SAME.

THE TOWNHOMES, WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

FRONT REAR TOWNHOMES, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THE FRONT IS GOING TO BE BEST FOOT FORWARD, BUT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE REAR DOES NOT THROW AWAY EITHER SO THERE'S CHANGES OF MATERIALS, FACADES ON THE REAR SIDE AS WELL.

I JUST CREATE SOME ARCHITECTURAL INTERESTS ON THAT REAR SIDE.

[INAUDIBLE] YES, SIR. FOREVER IT'S WORTH GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT.

YOU'RE ALWAYS IN MY HEAD AND WHENEVER I DO TOWNHOME ELEVATIONS, SO YOU'RE STUCK THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD THING OR BAD THING THAT YOU'RE THERE.

AS YOU GO TO THE SIDE ELEVATIONS, THESE ARE USUALLY THE LESS ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT ENTRANCES ON HERE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A 10 FOOT SEPARATION IN-BETWEEN HERE AND IT'S MAINLY FOR PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE THROUGH, IT'S JUST SOME OTHER BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR OTHER UNITS WITHIN THE SAME TYPE KNOWN PORTION.

FOR ALL THE MODIFICATION SUMMARY, COUPLE OF THEM ARE PRETTY SIMPLE.

SUBDISTRICTS 2 AND 3 TO TOWNHOME AND THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS ARE APPENDED OR ADDED TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE UP NOW THE 84 ACRES IN AREA AND SETBACK REGULATIONS FOR TOWNHOMES OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE ADDED IN AIR AND THEY ARE PARKING STRUCTURE STANDARDS.

[02:15:03]

THESE STANDARDS ARE TAKEN FROM OTHER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR JUST TO ADD VISUAL ANESTHETIC APPEAL TO THE PARKING STRUCTURES.

FLEXIBILITY IN PARKING STANDARDS.

ANYTIME WE HAVE MIXED USE WHO WANT TO TRY TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN WHILE STILL PROVIDING AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF PARKING.

THIS ALLOWS FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY AND PARKING STANDARDS WITHIN REASON.

THERE'S DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THERE SO YOU CAN HAVE THE FAR NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT SHARING PARKING OVER AT THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE OFFICE.

THERE'S DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOW FOR THAT SHARED PARKING.

THE THREE THAT I THINK WE'RE SUBSTANTIAL WERE THE LAST THREE BULLETS AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY.

PRIOR PHASING REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBDISTRICT 1 ARE ELIMINATED.

THIS IS THE STRIKEOUT UNDERLYING ORDINANCES PROVIDED TO YOU TO RECALL THAT THE PRIOR ORDINANCE HAD A MAXIMUM 740,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL AND THEY COULDN'T GET PASS-THROUGH ENTER 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL WITHOUT DOING A 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF ANY OF THOSE SEVEN USES THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND STRIKE OUT UNDERLYING.

THIS PD AMENDMENT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REVISE THOSE THAT LANGUAGE TO READ WHAT'S SHOWN HERE, THAT BASICALLY WOULD ALLOW THE 740,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL TO BE BUILT WITHOUT ANY REQUIREMENTS OR OFFICE TO BE BUILT OTHERWISE COULD BUILT ON ITS OWN. [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE JUST DID THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE WAREHOUSE, THEN THE HOUSING IN THE OFFICE CAME SEPARATE, SO THAT WAS A CONDITION, WAS IT 350,000 SQUARE FEET? I CAN'T RECALL.

>> YEAH.

>> WHY NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHAT HAS CHANGED THAT WE'RE NOW SAYING YOU CAN BUILD ALL 740,000 SQUARE FEET WITHOUT BUILDING THE OFFICE?

>> SURE. I'LL LOOK UP AND GIVE YOU THE DETAIL ON IT, BUT IN [NOISE] SHORT, IT'S EXPLAINED TO US THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF REPROCESS BECAUSE WE ASKED THAT QUESTION AS WELL FROM STAFF.

THOSE WERE OUR INITIAL COMMENTS.

IS IT THE WAY THAT THE FINANCING STRUCTURE IS SET UP TO CONSTRUCT THIS? IT'S SUCH THAT THEY NEED TO BUILD THE ENTIRE 740,000 SQUARE FEET AT ONE TIME BASED UPON THE FINANCING THAT THEY ARE SET UP FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S EXPLAINED TO US.

THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH DETAIL AS I'M COMFORTABLE GETTING INTO, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY ADD COLOR TO THAT IN MORE DETAIL TO THAT.

>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

>> CAN I DO THAT NOW OR YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL [OVERLAPPING]

>> OH, NO, CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> ALL RIGHT, SECOND ONE WAS A MODIFICATION TO FACADE REQUIREMENTS FOR SUB DISTRICT 1.

THESE ARE FAIRLY MINOR, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THEM UP BECAUSE THESE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED FROM THE PODIUM, SUCH AS STORING THAT LAST PD, SO I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE FAIRLY IMPORTANT.

FIRST MINOR CHANGE.

FEATURE ARCHITECTURAL ENTRIES TO ELEMENTS, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE GLASS THAT'S SHOWN ON ALL THESE ENTRANCES TO THESE BUILDINGS ISN'T ALWAYS GOING TO BE DOORS.

IT WILL HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE GLASS PROVIDE THAT FACADE, BUT A BABY WINDOWS.

THAT'S STRICTLY FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT.

IF YOU'RE HAVING WAREHOUSE BACK THERE TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL, AND SECURITY AND HAVE ACCESS INTO THOSE, THE FUNCTION PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT BY STILL CREATING THAT ARCHITECTURAL APPEAL TO IT, THAT'S PART OF THE MINOR LANGUAGES.

THE SECOND MINOR LANGUAGE IS FOR WHATEVER REASON WE LEFT IT AT SET FORWARD FOR ARTICULATION FROM STAFF STANDPOINT.

WE DON'T CARE IF IT'S SET FORWARD OR BACKWARD SO LONG AS THAT ARTICULATION HAPPENS, IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN THAT PLANE, THEY CAN DO WHICHEVER WAY WORKS BEST DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE ALLOWED THAT, THE ABILITY TO GO EITHER FORWARD OR BACKWARD AND THE OFFSET.

THE SCREENING STANDARDS, THIS IS PRETTY MINIMAL, BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST EXPLAIN IT.

THERE'S A SMALL GUEST PARKING LOT, THE FRONTS ON CHELSEA BOULEVARD.

ANYTIME WE HAVE PARKING VEHICLE PARKING FRONTING ON A THOROUGHFARE ON SCREENING, THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE THAT SCREENING.

THAT'S ALL THAT THAT IS.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT THAT MAY 3RD MEETING, AND STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVALS REQUEST AS PRESENTED UNDER THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR THIS EVENING, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> GOOD EVENING. I'M COLE HENLEY, 4145 TRAVIS STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.

>> STEVEN HOLLY, 8037 FOURTHS TRAIL, DALLAS, TEXAS.

>> CLAY ROBBIE 4145, TRAVIS, DALLAS, TEXAS 75204.

THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE TIME THIS EVENING, EXCITED TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU TO TALK ABOUT SOME UPDATES TO THIS PROJECT AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH 121 TECHNOLOGY PART.

THIS IS A QUICK INTRODUCTION AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, MY NAME IS CLAY ROBBIE.

I'M A MANAGING DIRECTOR AND A MEMBER OF THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE FOR STILLWATER CAPITAL.

I OVERSEE ALL THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE A PART OF OUR BUSINESS.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS BEING A BIG PART OF THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] TO THE COMPANY OVERALL, WE WERE FOUNDED IN 2006.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WE HAVE DIVISIONS IN THE COMPANY THAT MANAGE OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, AND MIXED USE PROJECTS.

WE'VE COMPLETED MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS TO DATE.

WE HAVE ABOUT A 100 PEOPLE IN OUR TEAM NOW SCATTERED AROUND THOSE OFFICES.

I WANTED TO MAKE JUST ONE BRIEF INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, I GUESS BEFORE GETTING INTO THIS PROJECT, JUST AS A DISCUSSION POINT.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST AND PROBABLY MOST WELL-KNOWN MIXED USE PROJECTS IN NORTH TEXAS, WE RELOCATED THE PGA OF AMERICA FROM PALM BEACH, FLORIDA TO FRISCO, TEXAS.

IF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE, OR SEEN IT IN THE NEWS, VERY LARGE PROJECT, VERY COMPLEX EFFORT, LOTS OF STAKEHOLDERS.

YOU HAVE STILLWATER CAPITALS ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS OMNI HOTELS IS OUR PARTNER IN THE PROJECT.

YOU HAVE THE PGA OF AMERICA, THE CITY OF FRISCO, AND THEN SEVERAL ETC AND FISD COMPONENTS WITHIN THE PROJECT.

THE REASON WHY I MENTIONED THAT IS THIS PROJECT 121 TECHNOLOGY PARK IS ALSO QUITE COMPLICATED.

IT'S A BIG PROJECT, IT'S A LOT OF CAPITAL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF MOVING PIECES, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CITY LEADERSHIP, CITY STAFF, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSTITUENTS WE'VE SPOKEN WITH.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER, FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF 121 PARK AND WHAT IT IS TODAY.

AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH ON THE NUANCES OF THE SITE PLAN AND HOW IT LAYS OUT AND HOW IT COMES TOGETHER, AND WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH ALL THE EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO IT.

STEVEN HERE IS GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION ON THE PROJECT AND THEN AT THE END, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS INCLUDING YOURS.

>> JUST REFERENCING ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL PROJECT.

THIS IS ABOUT 675,000 FEET IN AUSTIN, IT'S ABOUT TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE THIS SUMMER.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHEN WE CAME BEFORE FOR YOU LAST OCTOBER, THIS ENTIRE 84 ACRES ZONE WAS IN THE ALLEN COMP PLAN AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND TECHNOLOGY USE.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT RED PORTION IS THE 60 ACRES THAT MARC KIRBY HAD REFERENCED THAT WE WENT THROUGH OUR ZONING BACK IN OCTOBER.

THAT EASTERN MIXED USE PORTION IS THE 25 ACRES THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE PD THIS EVENING.

AGAIN, TO REITERATE THE APPROXIMATELY 740,000 SQUARE FEET AND SEVEN BUILDINGS AND THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER.

AGAIN, ANOTHER REITERATION, YOU SEE THAT EASTERN 25 ACRES, THE 119 OWNER, OCCUPIED TOWN HOMES THERE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

THE TWO PHASES OF OFFICE WITH A STRUCTURED PARKING THEN AS MARK INDICATED, THOSE RED BUILDINGS ARE A RETAIL THAT WE INTEND TO BE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CENTER AROUND THAT OPEN PARK SPACE.

SOME CONCEPT IMAGERY.

I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE MAJORITIES BEFORE, BUT THAT TOP LEFT IS A REPRESENTATION OF A FIVE STORY OFFICE, BOTTOM-LEFT ARE OUR TOWN HOME PRODUCT, TOP-RIGHT IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE THAT FOOD AND BEVERAGE RETAIL, THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS JUST INDICATIVE OF THAT OPEN SPACE PARK REQUIREMENT.

ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETING THE HIKING BIKE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE 84 ACRES AND IT WILL TIE IN THERE, IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE, ULTIMATELY WITH TIE-IN TO THE MCKINNEY PARKS CHARLES SYSTEM AS WELL. QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PROPONENT, DAVE?

>> WE'VE RECEIVED SOME CONCERNS REGARDING

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DRIVE A AND POTENTIAL 18-WHEELER ACCESS TO RIDGEVIEW DRIVE.

CAN YOU TOUCH ON THAT, PLEASE?

>> YES. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN SHAFER, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT CAME UP VERY EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS.

THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US TODAY A FEW HOURS AGO PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT IS, OVER THE PAST 12 PLUS MONTH [NOISE] TIME SPAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND CLOSE TO WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS TWO DOZEN MEETINGS WITH YOURSELF, WITH THE MAYOR, WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH STAFF, MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF COMMENTS, AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS OF RIDGEVIEW CROSSING THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RIDGEVIEW, ARE ALL IN EFFORT TO BE OPEN, COLLABORATIVE, AND TO GET FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE PARTIES.

THROUGH THOSE EFFORTS, ONE OF OUR INITIAL SITE PLANS HAD AN ENTRANCE ONTO RIDGEVIEW FROM THIS DRIVE RIGHT HERE.

THROUGH THAT EFFORT, WE ULTIMATELY REMOVED THAT, TAKING THAT FEEDBACK TO HEART.

COMING UP WITH A CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THAT AGAIN, THIS CONCEPT PLAN ON THIS WESTERN 60 ACRES THAT EVERYONE WAS EXCITED ABOUT, EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO GET BEHIND, AND ULTIMATELY WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BACK IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

>> YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I COULD JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT SO THAT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION A LITTLE BIT LATE THIS AFTERNOON.

WE'VE HAD A FEW DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARTY THAT MADE THOSE CONCERNS.

ONE THING THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO DO WOULD BE TO ADD LANGUAGE INTO OUR PD THAT REQUIRES SIGNAGE AT THE EXITING TRUCK CORD GOING TO THE EAST.

THE LANGUAGE WOULD SAY DIRECTIONAL SIGNS MUST BE POSTED AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF TRUCK CORD DRIVEWAYS WITH DRIVE A STATING, TRUCKS MUST EXIT THE STATE HIGHWAY 121.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A WAY TO ENCOURAGE TRUCK TRAFFIC TO AVOID RIDGEVIEW AND USE 121.

>> YOU'RE REFERENCING THESE TWO RIGHT HERE, CARL?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE TWO DRIVES THAT CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH THE TRUCK CORDS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO THE PD ITSELF.

>> THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, AS I MENTIONED BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO LEAD INTO YOUR QUESTION.

I BELIEVE WE'RE BALANCING DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER INTERESTS.

IN PROJECTS LIKE THESE, YOU HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, SAFETY CONCERNS, INGRESS AND EGRESS, TRAFFIC, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSTITUENTS, AND FINANCIAL PARTNERS, ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE BALANCED.

THE INTENT IS CERTAINLY FOR THAT TRAFFIC TO PUSH UP TOWARDS 121, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU NEED ACCESS TO A SITE, PRIMARILY IN THIS CASE FOR FIRE ENTRANCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THIS SOLUTION ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT AND SOLVE A CONSTITUENT CONCERN.

WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.

AS IT RELATES TO YOUR QUESTION, WHICH TO SOME EXTENT SIMILAR TO THAT, JUST AS A REMINDER, GOING BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT.

STEPHEN WAS SAYING, THE WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT THESE PROJECTS IS TO TRY TO BE VERY THOROUGH, VERY TRANSPARENT, AND HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS.

THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS WE CAN GATHER A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND FIGURE OUT THE BALANCE OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS TO CREATE ALIGNMENT AND A GOOD BUSINESS PLAN AND A GOOD CONSENSUS GOING FORWARD.

THE DETRIMENT TO THAT IS IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND SOMETIMES TIME IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

YOU HAVE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, YOU HAVE VOTES, YOU HAVE SUBMITTAL DEADLINES, AND THESE THINGS CAN GET A LITTLE BIT IN CONFLICT AT TIMES.

GOING BACK IN TIME TO WHEN THIS DISCUSSION FIRST CAME UP, WHEN WE FIRST INITIATED OUR ZONING AND ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, WE DID NOT OWN OR CONTROL THE LAND AT THE HARD CORNER.

WE WERE WORKING ON A PLANNING AND ZONING EFFORT AND A PURCHASE EFFORT FIRST INTO THE REST OF THE LAND.

WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, WHAT THE LAND USES ARE, WHAT THE ZONING WAS, AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT A BUSINESS PLAN THAT COULD ESSENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT HARD CORNER BECAUSE IT WASN'T FOR SALE.

THROUGH A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE AT THE CITY, STAFF, AND LEADERSHIP, AND FRANKLY, OUR OWN INTERNAL BUSINESS PLANNING EFFORTS, GETTING THAT HARD CORNER WAS OF INTEREST.

HOW DO WE FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE THAT IN TO BRING A TRUE MIXED-USE PROJECT WITH WHAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY, ADDITIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL POSITION AT THAT HARD CORNER.

INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT OWNER AT THE TIME WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL.

IT WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

WE HAD TO INITIATE OUR ZONING AND ENTITLEMENT PLAN WITH WHAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME, WHICH DIDN'T INCLUDE THE CORNER.

SUBSEQUENTLY, THE SELLER OR THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY CAME BACK TO US WITH A BUSINESS PROPOSITION THAT WE ACTUALLY COULD ACCOMMODATE.

OUR ZONING CASE, OUR ZONING EFFORT, WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK IN OCTOBER FOR THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, HAD ESSENTIALLY LAUNCHED AND THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAME AVAILABLE.

BECAUSE WE'VE MADE, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A COLLABORATIVE DECISION THAT INCORPORATING THIS MIXED-USE INTO THE PROJECT WAS THE RIGHT IDEA, WE WANTED TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT EFFORT.

WE PUT THAT LAND ON OUR CONTRACT AND ESSENTIALLY

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BROADENED OUR ZONING CASE TO INCORPORATE THAT.

THE ISSUE WAS WE HAD A CLOSING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROPERTY THAT WAS THE BALANCE OF THE LAND AND THE ZONING CASE FOR THIS CORNER WAS STARTED VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS.

WE ESSENTIALLY HAD TO CLOSE THE LAND THAT WE HAD WHILE WE CONDUCTED THIS PROCESS TO FINALIZE THE ZONING AND ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE MIXED-USE AREA.

WE SELF-IMPOSED, I SAY SELF-IMPOSED, IT CAME UP IN THIS ROOM.

WE SELF-IMPOSED A PHASING REQUIREMENT TO GIVE US ESSENTIALLY POWERED A PRESSURE POINT, MAYBE, TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON A COMMITMENT TO ULTIMATELY PERFORM ON THE ENTIRE MIXED-USE PLAN.

THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED TO, IS A COMMITMENT TO STAY TRUE TO OUR DESIRE TO DO A FULLY MIXED-USE PLAN.

FAST-FORWARD TO TODAY NOW, AND UNDERWRITING IS SUBSTANTIALLY ADVANCED, FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS ARE IN PLACE, TENANT DISCUSSIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE WHERE THEY ARE.

THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PORTION, THE WESTERN PORTION OF THIS SITE IS ESSENTIALLY SUBSIDIZING THE EASTERN PORTION.

THERE ARE LAND BASIS ALLOCATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

THAT THE CORNER WAS VERY EXPENSIVE.

THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY BEING ASKED OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE TO MAKE THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE FINANCIALLY VIABLE.

FOR US AS THE MASTER DEVELOPER FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WE MIGHT BE ONE MASTER DEVELOPER OF EVERYTHING, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT LENDERS AND DIFFERENT INVESTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED ONLY IN CERTAIN PIECES.

TO MAKE EVERYBODY ESSENTIALLY HAPPY WITH THEIR FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENT, WE HAVE TO MAKE AN UPFRONT FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO ALLOW ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO ADVANCE AT THE SAME TIME.

THE CURRENT BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN PURSUING, [NOISE] WHICH I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH MOST OF YOU IS FOR ALL OF THIS TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.

ONE BIG PROJECT.

FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, WE ESSENTIALLY NEED THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE TO GIVE THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, CALL IT TO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND HAVE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR [NOISE] REMOVING THE PHASING, IS BECAUSE WITH THE PHASING INVOLVED THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY AT THE TABLE TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE TO ADVANCE.

WE NEED THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO CREATE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO GO DO THAT.

>> YOUR INTENT [OVERLAPPING] IS STILL TO DEVELOP EVERYTHING?

>> CARL, DID THAT SATISFY YOUR QUESTION?

>> I'LL LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE SATISFIED. GO AHEAD, DAVE.

>> YOUR INTENT IS STILL TO DEVELOP EVERYTHING AT ONCE?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M GUESSING THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THE SEVEN BUILDINGS, YOU GET THOSE LEASED OUT, READY TO GO OR YOU MEAN.

>> NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEASES IN PLACE.

HOWEVER, SINCE I STOOD IN FRONT OF YOU LAST OCTOBER, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EDC, EITHER STILLWATER DIRECTLY ARE COMING THROUGH EDC'S OFFICE.

WE'VE HAD CLOSE TO TWO MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INQUIRIES.

A THIRD OF THOSE BEING OVER 300,000 SQUARE FEET, AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN A STRAIGHT, WHAT I WOULD CALL A TRADITIONAL DISTRIBUTION USER.

A 100 PERCENT OF THOSE INQUIRIES HAVE ALL HAD A HEAVY TECHNICAL MANUFACTURING COMPONENT TO THEM.

I TELL YOU THAT TO TELL YOU WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEASES IN PLACE, BUT THE MARKET AND THE DEMAND IS THERE BASED ON NOT EVEN MARKETING THE PROJECT YET AGAIN, THERE HAS BEEN SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF COLLABORATION WITH THE EDC, BUT OUR MARKETING EFFORTS WILL KICK OFF IN EARNEST AFTER WE GET THE APPROVAL HERE THIS EVENING.

>> I'M GUESSING YOU'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THESE SEVEN BUILDINGS WILL BE LEAST UPON COMPLETION OR PROBABLY EVEN BEFORE.

>> I HESITATE TO MAKE A GUESS UPON WHEN THEY WILL BE LEASED.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON THE INTEREST THAT WE'VE HAD TO DATE OVER THE LAST YEAR, WITHOUT MARKETING THIS PRODUCT, I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE ANY TROUBLE LEASING THESE TWO USERS WHO HAVE A TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING COMPONENT TO THEM.

>> WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT A BETTER DAY WILL COME. IS THAT TRUE?.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THEN [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] OF COURSE,I'M JUST [OVERLAPPING].

NO, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

IT'S JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND TO HOLD BY THE CHANGE.

>> BUT I THINK TO CLAYS POINT AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR AND THAT ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT IS HELPING US UNDERWRITE THE BALANCE OF THE PROJECT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE DIFFERENT USES.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU GET? WELL, NEVER MIND.

>> ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I'LL COME BACK.

>> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN EXCITED ABOUT THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE COMPONENT,

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BUT ALSO PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE STAGE ZONING IS THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE A BUFFER TO THE HUGE TRACK OF LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CHELSEA DRIVE.

I THINK HE SAID TO MR. SCHAFER THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO GO THROUGH WITH THE WHOLE PLAN INCLUDING THE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT?

>> WE WOULD BE GOING THROUGH WITH THE FIRST PHASE, THAT WHAT YOU SEE THERE TODAY, THOSE TWO IN THE

>> THE TWO BLUE BUILDINGS?

>> YES. THE TWO BLUE BUILDINGS.

THAT'S TWO PHASES OF OFFICE.

>> YEAH.

>> ROUGHLY 200,000 SQUARE FEET.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING IN ONE PHASE IS ONE PHASE OF OFFICE STRUCTURE GARAGE, THE RETAIL, THE TOWN HOMES, AND THE ALLY TECHNOLOGY PRODUCT.

>> WHAT DO YOU SEE AS YOUR TIMING FOR THAT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE COMPONENT?

>> SIDEWALK AND INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD START THIS SUMMER.

FOR ANY OF THIS TO HAPPEN, ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO GO INTO PLACE FIRST, THEN ESSENTIALLY HAVE A PAD SITE READY SITE THAT THE OTHER VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS CAN THEN COMMENCE ON.

SIDEWALK WOULD START IN A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

>> PERFECT. BUT AS FAR AS THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT, WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION FOR THAT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE?

>> THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE BEING UNDERWAY BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR BASED ON WHERE WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR OFFICE PARTNER.

>> OKAY, AND AS FAR AS THE VERTICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE PARKING GARAGE IN PHASE 1 IN THE OFFICE BUILDING.

WHAT'S YOUR TIMING ON THAT?

>> FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

>> OKAY.

>> I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. I GUESS THE OFFICE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR, BASED ON OUR CURRENT DISCUSSIONS, THE WESTERN PORTION WOULD BE A THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING FOR.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YEARS.

>> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY.

>> I WOULD TELL YOU ALL OF THIS WILL BE UNDERWAY BY FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE NOW, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY WOULD GO FIRST, FOLLOWED BY THE TOWN HOMES, FOLLOWED BY THE OFFICE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> BACK IN OCTOBER WE WENT THROUGH THIS.

I REALLY LIKED THIS PROJECT.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BACK IN OCTOBER WAS THAT I WAS A BELIEVER THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MIXED USE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE 900 ACRES OF 121 CORRIDOR AND WE HAD TO HAVE A BALANCE.

THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY APPEALED TO ME ABOUT THIS WAS THE FACT THAT THESE AREN'T JUST TYPICAL WAREHOUSES.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE WAREHOUSE YOU'D SEE ON LBJ OVER BY THE DFW AIRPORT.

WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THESE GENTLEMEN HERE, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO COMMEND YOU GUYS.

I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED THROUGH YOUR BUTTS OFF ON THIS.

YOU'VE BEEN REAL TRANSPARENT.

YOU'VE WORKED WITH MANY OF US HERE ON COUNCIL AND MARK AND HELION AND THAT TEAM AND I COMMEND YOU FOR IT AND I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THAT'S TO ME BUILDING A LEVEL OF TRUST.

WHEN THAT CAME, WE WANTED THIS PHASING PROCESS BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE ON EVERY DEVELOPMENT ALONG 121 WITH THE MULTIFAMILY IS THAT WE'VE TOLD THE DEVELOPERS YOU CAN'T BUILD 1,600 UNITS WITHOUT BUILDING SOME OFFICE AND SOME RETAIL.

WE WORK TO BUILD THAT INTO THE PHASING OF THIS TO YOUR POINT CARLO IS THAT, WE KNOW BILLINGSLEY'S IS GOING TO DO THEIR THING ON THE EAST SIDE OF CHELSEA.

WE WANTED TO HAVE CEMETERY AND A NICE BALANCE.

>> AND PROTECT OUR INVESTMENTS.

>> AND PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT.

EXACTLY. THIS DOES ALL OF THAT TO ME.

I THINK THE WAY THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE WORKED AND WE'VE CHANGED THE STRUCTURE AND AGAIN, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE HARD CORNER BACK GO AS YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK IN MONTHS AGO WHEN WE FIRST MET, I SAID, BRING IT ALL IN FOR ZONING AND THERE'S DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER TO BRING JUST THE WAREHOUSE PORTION.

HERE WE ARE, SEVEN MONTHS LATER AND WE'RE BRINGING IT ALL IN BUT THAT'S ALL GOOD.

I REALLY LIKE THIS PRODUCT.

I LIKE WHAT IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMPLEMENT TO BILLINGSLEY'S EAST OF 75, AND IT'S JUST DIFFERENT AND IT LOOKS GREAT, AND THEN I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY THAT'S MISSING SO FAR TODAY, THAT WAS AT THE LAST SESSION WAS THE COMMUNITY JUST TO THE SOUTH, WHERE THE REPRESENTATIVES A HOMEOWNERS CAME AND SPOKEN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE YOU WORK VERY HAND IN HAND WITH THEM WHEN YOU WERE DESIGNED AS BLIND.

THEM REALLY MEANS A LOT TO SONG ON CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOUR COOPERATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

EVEN AT THAT POINT, I THINK YOU ADDRESS AVENUE WAY AS FAR AS TRYING TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC OUT OF NORTH.

I APPRECIATE AGAIN, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO ADD

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SOME EXTRA LANGUAGE SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE WEST OR TO THE SOUTH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I THINK THAT [INAUDIBLE] PLANNING WITH ZONING, WHICH I WAS ON LAST YEAR.

I THINK OUT OF ALL THE PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS AND I'VE SEEN THE EVOLUTION, THE DISCUSSION, THE ADAPTATION, AND THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE BEING THE MIXED-USE PURPOSE THAT WE HAVE HERE.

GREAT, I LIKE IT AND WANT TO HAVE IT GO VERTICAL.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> I JUST GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION.

WE'RE STILL GETTING OUR STEAKHOUSE.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S STILL IN THERE.

>> IN FACT THOSE RED BOXES ARE OPENING NOW.

>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A PHOTO.

>> HEY, NO. [LAUGHTER]

>> READY TO GO ON WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING? I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.

[NOISE] I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THE REQUEST, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD NOW.

I'VE GOT THESE IN ORDER THAT I WAS GIVEN THEM.

STEVEN, I HAD YOU DOWN.

YOU DON'T NEED TO COME BACK UP.

CORRECT? I SUPPOSE YOU'RE FOR IT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MAYBE.

>> BILL DAHLSTROM, I HAVE YOU?

>> I'LL PASS.

>> YOU'RE GOOD. 2323 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 600, DALLAS, 75201.

THEN I HAD, KELSEY WILLIAMS, 2204, THORNBURY LANE, ALLEN 75013.

>> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, BRAD WILLIAMS, I'M ALSO ON THE LIST.

I'M GOING TO GO FIRST, I'M GOING TO LET MY WIFE GO SECOND.

>> OKAY.

>> IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> SURE.

>> FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

I GUESS FIRST, I SHOULD APOLOGIZE ALSO FOR NOT BEING AROUND IN OCTOBER WHEN THIS CASE WAS FIRST HEARD.

WE SIMPLY WERE NOT ALLEN RESIDENTS AT THE TIME.

WE JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT OUR HOUSE.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY AND EXCITED TO BE COMING TO ALLEN.

>> WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. WE JUST GOT WIND OF THIS VERY RECENTLY AND TRY TO GET INVOLVED AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE A LITTLE LATE TO THE PARTY.

I FULLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THESE GUYS HAVE DONE WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH AND WITH STAFF.

I GET IT. I'M IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS MYSELF.

I USED TO REPRESENT DEVELOPERS IN ZONING CASES.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS AND THE TIME AND THE WORK THAT GOES INVOLVED.

HAVING SAID THAT, I AM HERE NOW AND THIS CASE IS ALSO BEFORE YOU NOW.

THIS IS NOT A RUBBER STAMP.

YOU ARE THE BODY OF FINAL DETERMINATION.

I HAVE A VERY LIMITED CONCERN ON THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T OBJECT TO THE LAND USE.

I'M WITH YOU ON THE EXCITING NATURE OF THIS PROJECT.

I GET THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR MIXED-USE PROJECTS ALONG 121.

REALLY, THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF INDUSTRIAL VERSUS MORE MIXED-USE.

I'M FINE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL, BUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC ON RIDGEVIEW TO ME IS AN ISSUE.

YOU'VE GOT STARCREEK MONTESSORI DOWN THE WAY.

YOU'VE GOT JENNY PRESTON ELEMENTARY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES MYSELF INCLUDED.

MY DAUGHTER WILL GO TO BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

IF WE HAVE MORE CHILDREN, THERE WILL ALSO GO TO BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

I'M IMAGINING HAVING TO COMPETE WITH TRUCKS ON A DAILY BASIS, TAKING MY KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL.

I'M SURE OTHER PARENTS IN THE AREA MIGHT FEEL THAT WAY AS WELL.

AGAIN, APPRECIATING THE HARD WORK THAT THESE GUYS HAVE PUT INTO THIS SITE PLAN THAT'S BEEN VETTED BY STAFF AND MANY OTHERS AT THIS POINT.

MY THOUGHTS AND MY IDEAS FOR HOW TO RESOLVE THIS CONCERN FOR MYSELF AND MAYBE OTHERS IN THE AREA, IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A HEAVY LIFT ON ANYBODY'S PART.

WE DISCUSSED THE SIGNAGE EARLIER AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OFFER AND THE WILLINGNESS TO PUT THOSE THAT SIGNAGE REQUIREMENT IN THE PD.

I THINK WE CAN DO MORE.

THE GEOMETRY OF SOME OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PROHIBIT ANY TRUCKS FROM TURNING RIGHT WOULD BE IDEAL.

THAT WOULD NOT BE A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT.

I'D ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT, ASK YOUR STAFF ABOUT IT, MAYBE LET'S VET THAT IDEA A LITTLE BIT.

A SECOND ONE WHICH WOULD CAUSE NO DELAY AND COST NOBODY ANY MONEY, WOULD BE A SIMPLE PD CONDITION THAT SAYS, TRUCKS SHALL NOT EXIT THE SITE UNDER RIDGEVIEW.

IT DOESN'T COST ANYBODY ANYTHING, SIMPLY A MOTION ON YOUR PART TO ASK FOR THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE.

AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK, APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

DON'T HAVE A LAND USE OBJECTION HERE.

SIMPLY JUST ASK THAT THIS COUNCIL THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THE RIDGEVIEW, THE TRAFFIC, AND THE TRUCKS ON THAT ROAD.

WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TRUCKS DON'T PROLIFERATE THAT ROAD.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAYBE SHARE THAT OBJECTION THAT WAS THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE HAD TOGETHER.

THERE'S ALSO THIS IDEA THAT THE SITE PLAN SOMEHOW ADEQUATELY AND MAGICALLY PROHIBITS TRUCKS FROM GOING ON RIDGEVIEW.

I SIMPLY DON'T SEE IT.

THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN AS IT STANDS TODAY THAT DISCOURAGES TRUCK TRAFFIC ON RIDGEVIEW.

I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.

MAYBE LETS BEEF THAT UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE ORDINANCE.

I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THE OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO AREN'T

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TUNED INTO THIS WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IT.

AGAIN, LOT PROMPTS TO THESE GUYS FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE.

I JUST THINK IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT WE COULD DO.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY IN A POSITION TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

APPRECIATE IT. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, BRAD. KELSEY? [NOISE]

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KELSEY WILLIAMS, 2204 THORN BARRY.

I'D LIKE TO ESSENTIALLY ECHO EVERYTHING THAT MY HUSBAND BRAD SAID.

WE ARE SO INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO BE NEW RESIDENTS OF ALLEN IN THE STARCREEK NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS JUST SOUTH OF RIDGEVIEW CROSSING, WHICH I KNOW THE DEVELOPER HAS TALKED TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS THERE.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS IN STARCREEK AND SHATTUCK PARK WHO ARE ALSO ZONED TO JENNY PRESTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WILL BE DRIVING ON RIDGEVIEW TO GET TO OUR SCHOOLS WITH OUR KIDDOS EVERY DAY, ARE ALSO BEING CONSIDERED.

AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO ASK THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO IS CONSIDERED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE BIG, HEAVY 18-WHEELERS OFF OF RIDGEVIEW AND FUNNELING UP ONTO 121.

I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK THAT THE COUNCIL PLEASE MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THAT SIGNAGE THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE VERY GENEROUSLY AGREED TO DO.

BUT WE'D ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO INCLUDE SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT TRUCKS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO RIDGEVIEW FROM THE SITE.

IF POSSIBLE, ALSO SOME OF THOSE CURBS, STRUCTURE OR GEOMETRY OF THE SITE TO REALLY FORCE THE TRUCKS UP NORTH WOULD BE REALLY EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, I HAVE JOSH EID, 836 EMPORIO DRIVE, ALLEN, 75013.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN CLEMENCICH, I ACTUALLY SPOKE LAST OCTOBER WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH THE VERY FIRST TIME.

I'M PLEASED TO SHARE THAT I'M ACTUALLY THE HOA PRESIDENT OF RIDGEVIEW CROSSING SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT.

I'VE CHAMPIONED THIS DEVELOPER AND HELPED THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH US AND DISSEMINATING INFORMATION.

I AM A DEVELOPER BY TRADE.

UNDERSTANDING THE SITE PLAN, LAND USE, THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST LAND USE IN A TRANSITIONARY ENVIRONMENT ON A HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ENABLING ALL THE LAND USE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THERE.

I SHARE THE CONCERNS OVER THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE MENTIONED WITH THE DEVELOPER.

THE FIRST MEETING WAS, HEY, YOU GOT DRIVE A AND DRIVE B HERE, YOU ALREADY HAVE A MEDIUM BREAK.

LET'S GET OVER TO DRIVE A.

THEY MADE THAT CHANGE.

I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THESE GUYS HAVE DONE EVERY SINGLE THING THEY CAN TO COORDINATE WITH US.

I KNOW COUNCILMAN CORNETTE AND I THINK SHAFER, YOU WERE AT A MEETING THAT I DID ATTEND AS WELL, INVOLVE COUNCIL FROM THE EARLY GET-GO AS WELL AS CITIZENS.

CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH ABOUT THEM.

NOT GOING TO BE THE DEAD HORSE.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE OF ALL OF THE COMPONENTS IN THIS PD TO CAPITALIZE ON THE OPPORTUNITY AT HAND.

THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE.

I KNOW OF AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE TENANTS THAT WANT MORE SPACE.

THESE ARE QUALITY JOB GENERATIONS, QUALITY TAX REVENUE, SEVEN PERCENT CWD, GIVE THEM THE MONEY, BUT WE GOING TO GET THE TAX FROM SOMEWHERE.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES THAT.

THAT'S THE BUDGET CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

I THINK THE SIGNAGE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

ANYTHING ELSE COMES DOWN ENFORCEABILITY.

ROLL-UP CURBS, EMERGENCY ACCESS, WHAT CAN YOU DO THERE? MY ONLY CAUTION IS, LET'S NOT BE ON THE HUNT FOR A PERFECT SOLUTION WHEN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST.

WE PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD MAKING AN INFORMED DECISION, ENABLE THE BEST OUTCOME TO COME OF THIS.

REGARD TO PHASING, I GOT PAST THAT FAIRLY EARLY ON.

JUST BECAUSE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL.

WHO ARE WE TO INTERJECT TO SAY, HEY, DO THIS, AND THEN THIS, WELL, THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT.

THE LAST THING WE WANT IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FULL AND NOT SUCCESSFUL.

THOSE ARE REALLY MY CONCERNS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JOSH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS REQUEST? SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD, I WILL GO [NOISE] AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN THE MATTER OVER TO THE COUNCIL.

>> I'VE GOT BINS.

>> OF COURSE. SORRY.

>> TRY TO WATCH THE LIGHTS. WHEN I SEE THE LIGHTS, [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO WORRIES. TO MR. AND MRS. WILLIAMS, I BELIEVE, HOPEFULLY WHEN YOUR TENURE IN ALLEN REACHES ONE YEAR, YOU'LL CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING FOR BOARD OF COMMISSION.

SO WE NEED THE INSIGHTFUL EMAIL CONTENT THAT YOU SENT OUT EARLIER TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> THEN I HAD CHRIS SECOND.

>> YEAH. MR. AND MRS. WILLIAMS, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND, JOSH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REMARKS, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I DO THINK THAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND AS JOSH POINTED OUT,

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WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BACK IN OCTOBER.

WE CHANGED IT, WE ELIMINATED A DRIVE.

THESE GUYS HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO PUT SIGNAGE UP TO TRY TO DIRECT ALL OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC TOWARDS THE ACCESS ROAD AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND RESPOND SO QUICKLY.

I'M HOPEFUL AND I THINK JUST THE WAY THAT THE WAREHOUSES ARE LAID OUT, IT'S IN THE INWARD FACING DOCKS IF YOU WILL OR IS GOING TO CREATE A METHOD BY WHICH TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE MORE ENGAGED OR MORE IN FAVOR OF EXITING ON THE 121 FRONTAGE ROAD.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

I CERTAINLY DON'T DISMISS THEM.

I THINK THEY'RE VALID, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS. NOW DAVE.

>> I WANT TO ECHO WHAT CHRIS WAS SAYING.

EARLY ON I WENT TO TWO OR THREE MEETINGS BEFORE THEY EVEN CAME TO COUNCIL ABOUT THIS AND TRUCK TRAFFIC WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS.

WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS.

WE'RE SHORT OF HAVING SOME OF THESE STANDARDS AIN'T STOP NO TRUCKS. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE SIGNS, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR DOING THAT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MUCH MORE.

WITHOUT MAJOR DELAYS AND DESIGN CHANGES, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S MUCH MORE WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

AT THIS POINT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE COULD DO HONESTLY.

>> DAVE.

>> I'M PETTY MUCH IN THE SAME BOAT HERE.

I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND I EXPRESSED AS MUCH TO COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS WHEN SHE REACHED OUT TO ME TODAY ON YOU-ALL'S BEHALF.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SITUATION WHERE WE CAN LEGISLATE A PROBLEM OUT OF CONTROL OR FROM HAPPENING, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT A ZONING IS, BARRING TRUCKS FROM GOING ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENFORCE IT.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE WITH MODIFYING THE TRAFFIC INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE IT CAN ONLY GO TO THE NORTH IS IT ALSO PRECLUDES EMERGENCY VEHICLES FROM COMING FROM THE SOUTH AND GAINING ACCESS TO THOSE BUILDINGS.

I AM ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT STILLWATER IS A GOOD PARTNER IN THE CITY, HAS ALREADY VOLUNTARILY DECIDED TO ADD SIGNAGE AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR ALL OF THIS.

SO I'M STILL IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> IF NOT, I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF MAYBE CLOSING COMMENTS.

BUT FIRST, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE ABOUT THE PHASING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE REQUIRED THE PHASING BECAUSE THE TRUCKS WERE NOT ALL COMBINED AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE.

WE WANTED THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.

WE SAID, WELL, IF IT'S NOT COMBINED, YOU NEED TO PHASE IT.

ESSENTIALLY, THEY'VE COMBINED IT.

THEY'VE COME BACK AND THEY SAID, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THE PHASING OFF.

SO IN ESSENCE, THEY DID WHAT WE ASKED AND SO TO ME, THAT'S A FAIR REQUEST COMING BACK AT US.

I THINK WE DID DO A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF REVIEWING THE TRUCK TRAFFIC FLOW AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I LIKED YOUR COMMENT DAVE, ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING IN THERE.

BECAUSE IF YOU HINDER TRUCKS GETTING DOWN SOUTH, ARE YOU GOING TO HINDER FIRE TRUCKS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE AS WELL? I DON'T THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO HIGHWAY 121 TO GET BACK TO THAT NEW FIRE STATION THAT WE'RE BUILDING JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS.

SO I FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS PUSHING TRAFFIC UP TO THE NORTH AND YES, IF THE TRUCK WANTED TO GO OVER TO THAT NORTH-SOUTH ROAD, WHICH WE NEED FOR INGRESS-EGRESS, THERE COULD BE A TRICKLE OF SOME VEHICLES DOWN THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S GEARED TO PUSH THEM ALL TO THE NORTH.

BUT THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM COMING IN ON RIDGEVIEW FROM THE EAST TO GO TO THE NORTH, TO GO TO THE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR TO THE COMMERCIAL TO SERVICE ALL THAT STUFF AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE TO THE EAST OF THIS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BILLINGSLEY PROPERTY AND ALL THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE TRUCKS THERE.

WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM COMING DOWN RIDGEVIEW.

I GUESS MY POINT THERE IS I THINK THERE ULTIMATELY WILL BE TRUCKS ON RIDGEVIEW AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO LEGISLATE OR KEEP THEM FROM GOING THERE.

BUT I THINK THE LAYOUT AND DESIGN OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HINDERS TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM GOING DOWN TO RIDGEVIEW.

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IS IT GOING TO STOP THEM ALL? NO. BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO KEEP MOST OF THEM OUT OF THERE AND I THINK THAT, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR THE SITUATION.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEAH. BECAUSE THERE IS A OVERPASS THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE NEXT YEAR-AND-A-HALF AT HIGHWAY 75 AT RIDGEVIEW WHICH WILL PROBABLY MAKE TRAFFIC FLOW A WHOLE LOT EASIER ON RIDGEVIEW AND THERE'LL BE A WHOLE LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON RIDGEVIEW WILL BE ON TRUCK TRAFFIC.

ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, AND I THINK SHELLEY'S GOT AN ORDINANCE NUMBER.

>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 3917-5-22.

>> MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.3 AS PRESENTED WITH SPECIAL ATTENTION PAID TO THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE SIGNIFIED BY THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.

>> SECOND.

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON?

>> [INAUDIBLE] INCLUDE THE ORDINANCE?

>> NO, SIR. MAY I HAVE THE ORDINANCE ONE MORE TIME?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> HE JUST MADE THE COMMENT TO ADD THE TRUCK SIGNAGE AS PER THE PRESENTATION IS WHAT HE SAID.

>> IS THAT ADEQUATE?

>> [INAUDIBLE] REQUESTED ZONING WITH THAT AMENDMENT BUT NOT THE ORDINANCE [INAUDIBLE]

>> I MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6.3 WITH THE SPECIAL LANGUAGE. DO I NEED THE ORDINANCE?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY. I'D LIKE THE ORDINANCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

>> 3917-5-22.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.3, ORDINANCE NUMBER 3917-5-22 WITH THE SPECIAL SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR THE SIGNAGE AS SIGNIFIED BY THE APPLICANT DURING THIS PRESENTATION.

>> I SECOND.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE ORDINANCE NUMBER THE FIRST TIME, BUT THAT'S GOOD FOR ME.

>> IT'S MY FIRST TIME.

>> THAT IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

>> THANK YOU, PETE. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, PETE.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON? IF SO, PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD LUCK AND DO US GOOD AND GET THAT OFFICE BUILDING UP AS QUICK AS YOU CAN. THANK YOU.

[7.1 Calendar.]

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 7.1, THE CALENDAR MAY 30TH.

WE HAVE CITY FACILITIES ARE CLOSED IN OBSERVANCE OF A MEMORIAL DAY.

NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT MOST OF THEM.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE OPEN THAT DAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE CALENDAR?

[7.2 Items of Interest.]

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS.

>> YES, DAVE.

>> LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THIS WEEKEND, VFW WILL BE OUR MARKET STREET COLLECTING FOR RELIEF FUND.

ON THE 30TH WE WILL HAVE A CEREMONY AT NOON AT THE CEMETERY AND THEN AT 4:00 AT THE MEMORIAL AND I BELIEVE YOU'LL BE THERE FOR THAT ONE.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE GOTTEN OFFICIAL INVITE.

IF YOU WANT ME THERE, YOU NEED TO SEND SOMETHING TO ME JUST TO CONFIRM.

>> I ALREADY HAVE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SHELLEY TOOK THE BLAME.

>> CAN YOU SEND IT TO ALL COUNCIL?

>> ALL COUNCIL IS INVITED, EVERYBODY IS INVITED.

NOON AND AT 4:00.

>> I MIGHT JUST PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR.

>> SURE. THEN ON THE 11TH, THE ALLEN HERITAGE GUILD WILL BE DOING A FLAG DAY CEREMONY WITH THE VFW, THE AUXILIARY, AND THE DAR, DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

SO YEAH, THAT'LL BE COMING UP.

THEN OF COURSE ON THE 14TH WE'LL BE DOING ANOTHER FLAG RETIREMENT AT THE MEMORIAL WHERE YOU'RE INVITED TOO AS WELL.

[LAUGHTER] DID YOU GET THAT ONE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THAT ONE, BUT I'LL LOOK.

>> EVERYBODY IS INVITED, ALL COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY, OF COURSE.

VERY BUSY COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE CALENDAR? IF NOT, MOVING ON TO 7.2; ITEMS OF INTERESTS.

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS OF INTEREST? I JUST HAD ONE AND THAT IS IT'S THE END OF THE MONTH, SO MY CHARITY OF THIS MONTH IS QANTAS INTERNATIONAL.

MAYBE YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE AN INTERNATIONAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION AND THEIR FOCUS IS ON HELPING YOUTH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE MY CHARITY OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS WHERE I DONATE MY MONTHLY COUNCIL STIPEND.

IT'S $625 TO THE CHARITY OF MY CHOOSING AND THAT'S THE ONE THIS MONTH AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'VE GOT ABOUT A SIX MONTH BACKLOG OF PEOPLE ALREADY ASSIGNED THE CHARITY OF THE MONTH.

IT JUST KEEPS TICKING OFF AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THAT MANY CHARITIES IN ALLEN ALONE.

THERE'S A LOT IN COLLIN COUNTY, BUT IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY WE'VE GOT HERE JUST IN HOME.

SO IF YOU EVER WANT TO DONATE ANYTHING, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND A PLACE IN ALLEN TO DONATE IT TO.

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THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE.

ANY OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST? IF NOT, THEN WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> GOOD MEETING YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.

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